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Celeb News: Normani and Ally shade Camila. Again.
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
Let's not play the "music is not the same as a movie" ******** because you know damn well if Camila gets the main role in a musical Disney movie, no OT4 stan would be here for that **** and they would still find a way to drag her, even when they praised Dinah for that. |
People will try to come up with a million excuses for why it would be justified to drag her in this case or they'll deny that they'd drag her, but this is true and it's a big part of why this issue has blown so far out of proportion.
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Originally posted by Mr. Crabs
Its because Epic is actually testing the water with Camila, from the get go, they don't seem really interesting with the group. You can tell by how they pushed back their album and the lack of promo and exposure. Accidently, Camila manage to have this connection within the industry, i can see they are probably wanting her as solo act after 5H2, in another scenario they are letting Camila to do a duet because they probably didn't have the plan for a long term for the gorup, so when Republic showing interest in Camila off course they are happy with it, i'm pretty sure Republic will give pretty much money to Epic if its really happening.
Normani and the other had been jelly because they know about it, they are afraid with their career which is understandable imo. They will have no career if one of the girl left, let alone if its the most popular one.
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Originally posted by shelven
People will try to come up with a million excuses for why it would be justified to drag her in this case or they'll deny that they'd drag her, but this is true and it's a big part of why this issue has blown so far out of proportion.
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It's crazy and it's ******** and it's tiring. I see it everyday on Twitter. That's why it doesn't surprise me anymore, the extent that some people go to bash her because they're gonna do it even if she sits there and does nothing (this actually has happen before).
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
I love how she "hid it from the girls" or "the girls weren't happy about it" even comes up in a conversation about business. This is the music business, you don't pass up an opportunity that could further your career because some girls you met 3 years are gonna get jealous or mad.
I'll say this till this discussion is over (probably never), if any of the other girls were given an opportunity like this (or any sort of opportunity that would make their name bigger), they would jump to it in a second. Let's not play the "music is not the same as a movie" ******** because you know damn well if Camila gets the main role in a musical Disney movie, no OT4 stan would be here for that **** and they would still find a way to drag her, even when they praised Dinah for that. |
If I were a Normani or an Ally,.
I be proud of Camila because she is part of the same group fifth harmony, Camila can help the group exposure for the future.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
It's crazy and it's ******** and it's tiring. I see it everyday on Twitter. That's why it doesn't surprise me anymore, the extent that some people go to bash her because they're gonna do it even if she sits there and does nothing (this actually has happen before).
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You are right, remember a interview where Camila was so quiet, then some people drag her actitude.
She only was tired.
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It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her. 
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her.
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has. |
 but they'll remain delusional.
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I love how the Little Harmonizers want to pretend this feud doesn't exist and accuse everyone of reading into it too much If you can't see the shade in this then there's something badly wrong 
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her.
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has. |
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her.
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has. |
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
I love how she "hid it from the girls" or "the girls weren't happy about it" even comes up in a conversation about business. This is the music business, you don't pass up an opportunity that could further your career because some girls you met 3 years are gonna get jealous or mad.
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Ddddd, sis; like I'd usually never start to argue with you or criticize you, but what the hell is this? 
You know damn well; that they're in a girl GROUP and should stay loyal to the group, like your logic and mentality doesn't make sense or at least work with groups/bands.
& yes, if she keeps telling them and us how much she loves the girls & the group; then she should consider the opinions of her group members
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Originally posted by Stan
Ddddd, sis; like I'd usually never start to argue with you or criticize you, but what the hell is this?
You know damn well; that they're in a girl GROUP and should stay loyal to the group, like your logic and mentality doesn't make sense or at least work with groups/bands.
& yes, if she keeps telling them and us how much she loves the girls & the group; then she should consider the opinions of her group members |
Sis, it's a group and they can have a friendship and all, but at the end of the day y'all can't seem to understand that their careers will come first because they auditioned as SOLO artists and not too long ago they wanted to make it as SOLO performers.
I really don't believe anyone who sits here and tells me that if Normani is presented with the opportunity to duet with someone she likes like Tinashe or something she would say no. Or any of the other girls, for that matter.
The fact that Camila got the opportunity to duet with someone she liked and ended up becoming a single and then blowing up shouldn't make her bandmates upset. Y'all keep preaching about friendship, well if they're such good friends I understand them getting a little bit upset at a solo venture but then you would just let it go if you're really friend and preach and support "girl power" and "women sticking together", but it just seems to me that the bigger the single gets, the saltier they get.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her.
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has. |
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Y'all don't understand, if Camila was missing performances or skipping interviews or appearances with them or doing some **** like that, I would be incredibly pissed at her, but the fact that the girl hasn't done this and she finishes studio sessions with them and instead of snapchatting the whole day, party or going to sleep she flies across the country and performs and then goes back and does appearances with the girls and this and that and she always manages to do that with a smile on her face, and she greets fans and she takes pictures and she's gentle and humble, It just makes me admire her even more.
I see commitment with the group and I also see drive and motivation, and I won't judge her for doing a song with a friend that ended up blowing up. More power to her, and this is how the girls should feel about it too. Like I said before, y'all keep talking about friendship, let's talk about it then, let's talk about them preaching women empowerment, literally that's almost their group name so if a bitch is killing it, show some support.
I'd consider this and act of disloyalty if she, professionally, let the group down in any way.
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
Sis, it's a group and they can have a friendship and all, but at the end of the day y'all can't seem to understand that their careers will come first because they auditioned as SOLO artists and not too long ago they wanted to make it as SOLO performers.
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Exactly. And they agreed to give that up by joining a group. If Camilla wants to work on her solo career right now she should have never joined, and she should leave. Because what she's doing is underhanded and sneaky.
And now it's even more likely Normani or any other member would take an opportunity like this in the future, because Camilla has set precendent. She has shown with her actions that she doesn't respect their agreement, and it's every man for his self. That is what Camilla is done, and that is what's going to lead to the destruction of his group.
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Originally posted by Bruss
Ally needs to worry bout her sponge bob squarebody and fashion cause her own excistense is self shade she cant go around shading other people just yet.
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These girls became a group because they had to in order to stay on X factor. This was bound to happen. They are going to break up soon anyway so it's smart for Camila to get her name out to the gp as much as possible. Clearly their record label is on board. They know she has what it takes to be a star.
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Originally posted by memi stan
These girls became a group because they had to in order to stay on X factor. This was bound to happen. They are going to break up soon anyway so it's smart for Camila to get her name out to the gp as much as possible. Clearly their record label is on board. They know she has what it takes to be a star.
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And that's where loyalty comes into it. The other 4 Girls still have faith in 5H, and are still trying to make it work, which is why they aren't pulling the **** Camilla is. They all know they're on a sinking ship, they know they are flopping & them staying together shows commitment to making this group happen. Camilla knows she's on a sinking ship too and is building herself a new boat, while the rest of the girls are trying to fix their current one for ALL OF THEM to sail in. This is underhand backstabbing. I'd hate to business with anyone who thinks this is ok.
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's baffling how some of you don't understand loyalty. And some of you are sitting here saying Camila did nothing wrong at all, while also saying "The other girls are pressed of Queen Camila's slayage, they're mad bc she's slaying and they won't be successful"....you're literally proving the point of why it WAS wrong of her.
If she wants to make that decision based on her own self and own career, while she's in a group, go for it. But she needs to accept that it's a crappy thing to do to your group and will cause issues.
If there's no problem with them releasing side Pop projects, then think, what if they ALL were releasing their own stuff on the side.....do you know how messy that would be? That would show that there's no loyalty to the group and they'd all rather go solo. It would be extremely detrimental to the group The right thing to do (like every other group in the past) is to hold off on that stuff until after the group disbands or goes on hiatus, and show unity as a group.
And by the way, other side projects like the Moana thing are NOT the same as music. They all want to someday have their own music careers.....Camila doing a side Pop music project right now is marketing herself and catering to the same audience that they all are trying to cater to with 5H and with their solo careers one day. She's putting herself out there and trying to establish herself separately from the group, more than the group, in the same exact industry, to the same exact audience. This is only going to bring more attention to her in the group, as it already has. |
You dont get it.
Their relationship is pure bussiness and professional work. As long as Camila didn't miss any schedule, as long as she didn't break the contratct, she's free to do whatever she likes.
You make her as if she's obligated to sacrifice her career and oportunity for the rest of the group? you want her to succed together with the group and if its not together you either should fail or be successful together? Darling, they are not a member of a family with blood relation or what, Camila don't need to feel 'sorry' of feeling 'uncomfortable' for getting more popular and establihing her name in the industry. Its not wrong doing this and that as long as you keep your professionalism and work ethic.
This is not kinder garden as someone has said. There's no such thing as being disloyalty if she is still following the contract and didn't break any appointment or and rules or any schedules. This is bussiness, you gotta be smart with your chance and opportunity,
If this group have great relationship as good as a family, as strong as blood, Normani and Ally wouldn't be jealous in the first place either. They will see this as a great oportunity and great exposure for their gorup, cause lets be honest, Camila is like the most distinguish one in 5H's track, her ability to maintain good relationship with media and radio's dj will also help the gorup promotional oportunity in the future when they release debut single off 5h2.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Mr. Crabs
You dont get it.
Their relationship is pure bussiness and professional work. As long as Camila didn't miss any schedule, as long as she didn't break the contratct, she's free to do whatever she likes.
You make her as if she's obligated to sacrifice her [solo] career and oportunity for the rest of the group? you want her to succed together with the group and if its not together you either should fail or be successful together? Darling, they are not a member of a family with blood relation or what, Camila don't need to feel 'sorry' of feeling 'uncomfortable' for getting more popular and establihing her name in the industry. Its not wrong doing this and that as long as you keep your professionalism and work ethic.
This is not kinder garden as someone has said. There's no such thing as being disloyalty if she is still following the contract and didn't break any appointment or and rules or any schedules. This is bussiness, you gotta be smart with your chance and opportunity,
If this group have great relationship as good as a family, as strong as blood, Normani and Ally wouldn't be jealous in the first place.
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Because she is. That is the whole point of being in a girl group 
If they all had that attitude the group would be completely dysfunctional, which is why they don't all have that attitude. It's like a mutual disarmament. The rest of the girls are refraining from starting their solo pop projects, not because they don't have the ability or the chops, but because it's not in the best interest of the group. I repeat, if they all did what Camilla did, , their schedules would irrational, they would not be able to give 100% to the group, and the group would seize to exist. It can't be one rule for Camilla and another rule for the other girls.
It's clear that you are supporting her because you are biased. You think she deserves special treatment because you think she's special. But she didn't sign up to a PCD arrangement, she signed up to a group where all members are created equal. If they are sacrificing their solo careers to make the group a success, so should she. If she doesn't want to, then she should leave.
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