Camila had no control over the label choosing to push her, though. So you're effectively saying that people should support the other four members over Camila because of something that's outside of her control (because let's not act like if Camila possessed some sort of Mother Theresa selflessness and demanded that all 5 girls be treated absolutely equally, the label would have complied).

There's a very clear internalized bias against Camila that existed LONG before she made any bad choices, and that's where a lot of this problem stems from.

"Fifth Harmony member is Disney's new princess" would have almost definitely been the exception to that rule.

I already addressed this point in an earlier post, but long story short, that's a lot to bank on and wasn't that realistic.

I pretty much addressed this when I responded to point #1, but you don't seem to see that that's not exactly fair to Camila. Everybody else gets to express themselves and pursue individual opportunities, but SHE can't because some big-wig executives decided that she should sing a few more choruses than the other four.

I mean

lol what are these "commitments" people speak of. Why would she not take an opportunity that grows her career?

You're missing the point here. It's not only jealousy that's a problem. It's respect and professionalism . They all signed up to this ensemble group, with no lead singer, all member created equal. The group must come first at all times, especially when you're not even a success yet. I'm sure they all want a solo career at some point in their life, but at this very moment they group can not succeed if the members behave as if it's a free for all. Camilla doing one solo project may not destroy the group, but if everyone did solo projects the group would not work. It can't be one rule for Camilla and another for the other girls. They know this, that's why Camilla should have practiced some self-restraint and declined the offer. Everyone else is being loyal except for her.

Maybe the one where you should be in the studio with your group mates when recording.

lemme wait patiently for 5H2

Then she should go solo.

I'd also like to point out that the ONE studio session where she left early was revealed to be one of the very last recording sessions for 5H2, and while she's been doing all these performances with Shawn, the other four girls have been at home/on vacation while Epic chooses a single. Let's not act like Camila leaving a studio six hours early one day is her "blowing all of these huge commitments" when 5H has been doing NOTHING right now regardless of this duet

Perfectly said.

messy

I think there's no way Camila could have predicted this song would become as big as it did, that it'd be put on Shawn's album re-release let ALONE be released as a single. Still music/songwriting is her passion and so getting to do more of it made her happy. Camila's bio write-up for appearing on Jimmy Fallon tonight linked to The Fifth Harmony official website since she doesn't have a solo website.

It's not "against the code of being in a group" to release solo music or duets. Artists in bands and groups do it all the time. Goodness Sporty Spice of the Spice Girls did it and we all know it was Ginger who officially left first. Anyone who thinks "people in groups don't do that" doesn't spend any time studying the actual music industry.

I get it, they're a bunch of teenage girls who got insecure about Camila doing this but if they'd genuinely supported it and her then the problems most people feel there are wouldn't matter. People both in the public and the industry aren't gonna want to put their trust in a group that they think is on the verge of breaking up.

Like I don't get how these girls (or their management) don't realize part of their brand is being a united group and that acting mean to Camila is damaging to the group as a whole. Their friendship and personalities got them a fandom when they had zero music of their own to promote.

What's done is done, so find a way to get over it instead of acting like EVERY SINGLE PERFORMANCE of the same song, which now that the recording is out there Camila is obligated to promote and perform is a brand new affront. Camila performing this song IS honoring her adult commitments. Until the song dies, she's committed to performing it.

Why? She can do what she wants and be in the group at the same time. She was able to fit everything in so good for her

Lol that's a pure fan-fiction contractual obligation. As long as her voice makes it on the track, I'm sure all is good. And not only that, her contract is with the label, not with the other girls.


And we know how the label feels about it so clearly she's good with her obligations.

not when the group doesn't write or produce the songs

when you're not recording, you're basically just sitting around till it's
your turn in the booth.

They're being loyal by default. You're making it sound as if these girls are being approached for solo work.


Let's not pretend anyone of them would have turned down a Justin Beiber collab for the good of the group. Like sdfssdf

Life is unfair, isn't it? If she has A LOT of advantages with 5H over the other girls, even if it's partly not her fault, then maybe she can suck it up with some other stuff and let the other girls shine instead. But no, she has to be the most selfish member here and ruining the who group dynamic

And no, 5H singing the theme song of Moana is a very realistic situation. Let's be real, if Dinah is chosen, they will consider 5H fanbase too and most likely let 5H sing

And Dinah being Moana will bring more exposure to 5H than Camila. The media will refer to her as a 5H member, while the media has already refer to Camila as just Camila even before the mess

it's never coming

The spice girls were already a success/icon before Mel C went solo. That's teh difference. 4 Member are hustling and bustling to make 5H a thing, while Camilla is working on their solo career. Camilla is not the only girl with solo aspirations, yet she is the only one who stepped out of line.

THIS to the max.

They make it sound like her absence is messing up the creative atmosphere or something.