I have a pet peeve when ppl who are from Western countries (such as myself) ask of developing countries or ppl from ex colonies to be up to par with their social norms etc..like do you realize that colonization sets entire countries back by decades both economically and socially? Like how do you feel comfortable knowing these countries were ruined with colonization and then preach to them later on about how "backwards" they are and how they are so far behind in their way of thinking or w/e..like it makes no sense. It took time for Western countries to make it to where they are without having been colonized so give time to ex colonies and the ppl living there.

Do you agree?

YES

wow yes i agree

Uh

Well the introduction of Christianity to many colonies has set them back socially I agree

Okay. But if you don't like how open-minded and tolerant our country is, you can stay in yours. It goes both ways to an extent.

I am Canadian. This is my country lol. I'm just saying ppl tend to expect too much from ex colonies acting like those countries were not the victims of tragic wars and colonization you know what I mean? Like I took a look at a thread made earlier and the replies were so dumb. how do you expect these countries to be up to par with Western countries who thrived economically by colonizing and ripping natural resources from these countries for decades?

It's a very fickle topic and I can understand both sides of it

I think it's the kind of thing with no right or wrong answer as both ways can make very valid points

Can you please mention specific countries instead of just blindly making claims like this thanks.

This isn't true. The US, Canada and Australia pretty much deny your comment.

I remember when Obama was in Kenya last year, in one speech he tried to defend Kenya's lgbt community and nudge people to be more tolerant. I actually applaud him for that.

But it wasn't well received. That is sad, but they did make the valid point of simple day to day survival being a much more important issue; surviving economic hardship and terrorists threats on a daily.

It's definitely a difficult topic. A lot of us westerners think "Well maybe if they didn't oppression different factions of their population, they could be more prosperous, or at least appear more attractive to tourists" (since because of cruel economic effects of colonialism, tourism is the main industry in a lot of these places). But we're out of touch in some ways.

This topic raises the question of what customs and traditions are more attractive and least stippling. Like we think a lot of Islamic nations lose out because they deny their women so many basic rights. They could have a woman perfect cold fusion, or cure cancer. But they stipple women so much, that may never be. Or I know I feel sorry for young men in a lot different cultures. There is one somewhere, where the right of passage for a boy to become a man is sticking his hand thousands of ants.

I really enjoyed this reply. I agree with this way of thinking too tbh. it is a difficult topic because we have an installed value system and we think differently / different priorities etc...we expect these countries to sort of be on the same page when the truth is they are a good two to three chapters back because of the damages of colonization. the natural and gradual shift in social, economical and political topics is only now starting where as western nations have sort of already tackled most things.

One only has to look at Aztec spirituality or any African traditional religion and it should tell you that they weren't better off without Christianity.

Yeah, America is far behind the UK.

White people are evil.

The first americans literally executed women they believed to be witches at the stake in the name of christianity. Stop lumping literally hundreds of different belief systems from geographically, culturally, economically diverse societies throughout the past thousand years into one "other" opposing christianity. It's idiotic, shortsighted and lowkey racist.

Not really. For instance many countries in the Middle East were created using bad borders, putting in people in power who should not be power, controlling the source of wealth, making sure the ruling powers are docile to foreign interests and so on.

Do you really think the Middle East and Iran were always in such dire political upheaval?

I had a similar argument with someone about progress in parts of Africa.

Not you acting like Christianity is some sort of angel.