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Celeb News: Priyanka called "Arab terrorist" by dumb Americans
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Originally posted by Bathomet
But she does look Arab.
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She doesn't look Arab at all. You must be one of those stupid people who think Pakistanis and Afghans are "Arab" or "Middle Eastern."
These are Arabs. Do they look like Priyanka Chopra?

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Originally posted by Bathomet
But she does look Arab.
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You should consider visiting an optometrist if you can't tell the difference between these women.

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Originally posted by Xorev
Probably labeled in such disgusting way by same trash who wants to bomb Agrabah.
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IM WEAK. I still can't believe some republicans actually voted to bomb Agrabah. Some Americans really need to take geography classes.
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Originally posted by Inverted
You should consider visiting an optometrist if you can't tell the difference between these women.

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your responses are always so shady 
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Am I the only one more offended by them calling her a terrorist because they thought she was Arab than the fact someone mixed up her race/heritage (which, in THEORY, should be nothing more than a harmless, easy-to-rectify/clarify mistake. And would have been too if not for the former)? 
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Originally posted by Repo
Am I the only one more offended by them calling her a terrorist because they thought she was Arab than the fact someone mixed up her race/heritage (which, in THEORY, should be nothing more than a harmless, easy-to-rectify/clarify mistake. And would have been too if not for the former)? 
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Bigots always make illogical generalizations like that (gay people have AIDS, black people are on welfare, Hispanics are illegal criminals, women can't do whatever) and it's not worth addressing because it's unreasonable. Moreover, Priyanka already addressed it in her response.
And pretending South Asians look Middle Eastern isn't harmless when statistics show that a disproportionate amount of the people who face hate crimes and harassment for being "Middle Eastern" or "Arab" aren't even from that actual region or look the part. That's not even offensive. It would be laughable if it weren't scary and dangerous.
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Originally posted by Inverted
Bigots always make illogical generalizations like that (gay people have AIDS, black people are on welfare, Hispanics are illegal criminals, women can't do whatever) and it's not worth addressing because it's unreasonable. Moreover, Priyanka already addressed it in her response.
And pretending South Asians look Middle Eastern isn't harmless when statistics show that a disproportionate amount of the people who face hate crimes and harassment for being "Middle Eastern" or "Arab" aren't even from that actual region or look the part. That's not even offensive. It would be laughable if it weren't scary and dangerous.
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So instead you spend four pages addressing the also illogical but FAR less harmful "Woops! Mixed up the appearances of Arabs and South Asians!" The focus should be on the primary issue here, which is the terrorist stuff. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if this wasn't an issue. No one runs a news article because someone thought Priyanka was Arab when she's actually South Asian and they were 100% cool with it either way and just didn't know.
As for the issue with mixing up races, the problem there is, gasp, they associate them with a group they hate and think are all terrorists. Back to my first point.
A better example of "should be harmless" is Ariana Grande, who tons of people apparently think is Latina even though she is 100% not Latina. It's a mix up, but nothing horrendously bad comes of it. Likewise, nothing horrendously bad would come from people mistaking Priyanka for Arab if people weren't going "Arab=Terrorist."
I'm not saying people shouldn't be corrected. They should. But mistaking her race is 100% NOT the issue here and doesn't mean the person is some horrid human being or hardcore racist. On the other hand, the "Arab people are terrorists" is a major issue. Apparently even for people who aren't Arabic. At all. As we're seeing now
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Originally posted by Repo
So instead you spend four pages addressing the also illogical but FAR less harmful "Woops! Mixed up the appearances of Arabs and South Asians!" The focus should be on the primary issue here, which is the terrorist stuff. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if this wasn't an issue. No one runs a news article because someone thought Priyanka was Arab when she's actually South Asian and they were 100% cool with it either way and just didn't know.
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Did you completely ignore my response to you? Here it is again:
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And pretending South Asians look Middle Eastern isn't harmless when statistics show that a disproportionate amount of the people who face hate crimes and harassment for being "Middle Eastern" or "Arab" aren't even from that actual region or look the part. That's not even offensive. It would be laughable if it weren't scary and dangerous.
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Clearly it's very harmful to confuse the appearance of Arab/Middle Eastern people with South Asians. Maybe you think it's a non-issue because you were confused about yourself. By the way, I haven't spent "four pages" discussing anything. Other people replied to and they all focused on how ridiculous is it to think a South Asian woman is "Arab" or "Middle Eastern."
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Originally posted by Repo
As for the issue with mixing up races, the problem there is, gasp, they associate them with a group they hate and think are all terrorists. Back to my first point.
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Actually, the issue is that they're uneducated and genuinely thinks Indians, Pakistanis and other South Asians are "Middle Eastern." There aren't a lot of Middle Eastern people in the US so their exposure to Muslims are usually Pakistanis and in their mind Muslim = Middle Eastern. Like another poster said, they're shocked when they see actual Middle Eastern people, which is why there's 4 pages of discussion with people laughing at the idea of Priyanka being thought of as "Arab."
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Originally posted by Repo
A better example of "should be harmless" is Ariana Grande, who tons of people apparently think is Latina even though she is 100% not Latina. It's a mix up, but nothing horrendously bad comes of it. Likewise, nothing horrendously bad would come from people mistaking Priyanka for Arab if people weren't going "Arab=Terrorist."
I'm not saying people shouldn't be corrected. They should. But mistaking her race is 100% NOT the issue here and doesn't mean the person is some horrid human being or hardcore racist. On the other hand, the "Arab people are terrorists" is a major issue. Apparently even for people who aren't Arabic. At all. As we're seeing now
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I already addressed why it's a something horrendously bad can come out of it and you just acknowledged it too. And yes, it's clearly an issue when incidents like Sikhs getting physically attacked after being mistaken for "Middle Eastern." It goes beyond Arabs being associate with terrorists when you're dragging other people into the issue.
As for your claim that isn't not always a "hardcore racist," who cares? It's stupid. Stop being an apologist for ignorance.
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Originally posted by Inverted
Clearly it's very harmful to confuse the appearance of Arab/Middle Eastern people with South Asians. Maybe you think it's a non-issue because you were confused about yourself. By the way, I haven't spent "four pages" discussing anything. Other people replied to and they all focused on how ridiculous is it to think a South Asian woman is "Arab" or "Middle Eastern."
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I'm not sure how to explain this any moe clearly, so let me try again: if these people didn't hate all Arab/Middle Eastern people for being the wrong race, there would be no hate crimes. Mmkay?
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Actually, the issue is that they're uneducated and genuinely thinks Indians, Pakistanis and other South Asians are "Middle Eastern." There aren't a lot of Middle Eastern people in the US so their exposure to Muslims are usually Pakistanis and in their mind Muslim = Middle Eastern. Like another poster said, they're shocked when they see actual Middle Eastern people, which is why there's 4 pages of discussion with people laughing at the idea of Priyanka being thought of as "Arab."
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.... so are you saying taht the "all middle Eastern people are terrorists" fallacy is correct? If not, I refer you to previous point.
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I already addressed why it's a something horrendously bad can come out of it and you just acknowledged it too. And yes, it's clearly an issue when incidents like Sikhs getting physically attacked after being mistaken for "Middle Eastern." It goes beyond Arabs being associate with terrorists when you're dragging other people into the issue.
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Said horrendously bad thing comes from the middle eastern type. If some ignorant person assumed Priyanka was Asian, or Italian, or Latina, she probably wouldn't be at risk of getting beaten to a pulp. Again, see point one.
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As for your claim that isn't not always a "hardcore racist," who cares? It's stupid. Stop being an apologist for ignorance.
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Considering you guys are acting like flubbing a race is worse than calling all Arabs terrorists, I'm trying to keep things in perspective. And if that's the case, then most of ATRL are scumbags because I've seen a lot of people on here call Ariana Grande Mexican.
I also literally just said it's ignorance and they should be corrected. Just that.... people spreading hardcore racist "GROUP X = TERRORIST SCUMBAGS" is significantly worse.
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Originally posted by Repo
I'm not sure how to explain this any moe clearly, so let me try again: if these people didn't hate all Arab/Middle Eastern people for being the wrong race, there would be no hate crimes. Mmkay?
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Except not. Your whole point has been that there's only anti-Middle Eastern hate crimes because these people associate them with terrorism, but anti-Middle Eastern hate crimes have existed long before 9/11. What do you think anti-Semitism is? Semites are not just Jewish people. Again, the whole point of this thread is
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Originally posted by Repo
.... so are you saying taht the "all middle Eastern people are terrorists" fallacy is correct? If not, I refer you to previous point.
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Are you asking me this because it's something you subconsciously believe?
[QUOTE=Repo;31891339]Said horrendously bad thing comes from the middle eastern type. If some ignorant person assumed Priyanka was Asian, or Italian, or Latina, she probably wouldn't be at risk of getting beaten to a pulp. Again, see point one.[/qipte]
Priyanka is Asian. And speaking of Italians and Latin Americans, they're more likely to pass as Middle Eastern, which goes back to the point being discussed in the thread. If these people actually were educated about what Arabs and other Middle Eastern people looked like, they'd be less likely to be bigoted because those people are similar to them. It's like in places like Greece, France and Germany where Turkish and other Middle Eastern immigrants are quite common and there's a lot of Islamophobia, but it's rare for them to get attacked because they're similar to the mainstream population.
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Originally posted by Repo
Considering you guys are acting like flubbing a race is worse than calling all Arabs terrorists, I'm trying to keep things in perspective. And if that's the case, then most of ATRL are scumbags because I've seen a lot of people on here call Ariana Grande Mexican.
I also literally just said it's ignorance and they should be corrected. Just that.... people spreading hardcore racist "GROUP X = TERRORIST SCUMBAGS" is significantly worse.
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Considering our past discussions where the point goes completely over your head, I'm not surprised that the same occurred here. Those ATRLers who refer to Ariana Grande as "Mexican" are trolling. These people genuinely believe South Asians are Middle Eastern. And nobody is saying calling Arabs "terrorists" isn't terrible, but they're not the ones who deal with it. Why do you think all the Arabs ATRLers (most of the people who responded to this thread) don't really care? They're only laughing because they think it's ridiculous anyone would be stupid enough to mistake Priyanka Chopra as "Middle Eastern."
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sometimes she looks like an darker-skin arab
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Originally posted by Inverted
Except not. Your whole point has been that there's only anti-Middle Eastern hate crimes because these people associate them with terrorism, but anti-Middle Eastern hate crimes have existed long before 9/11. What do you think anti-Semitism is? Semites are not just Jewish people. Again, the whole point of this thread is
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No, I brought up the terrorism thing because that was the example in this case. Anti-Semitism, for example, is STILL more than "Woops! I thought you were Jewish and you weren't! My mistake!"
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Are you asking me this because it's something you subconsciously believe?
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Originally posted by Repo
Said horrendously bad thing comes from the middle eastern type. If some ignorant person assumed Priyanka was Asian, or Italian, or Latina, she probably wouldn't be at risk of getting beaten to a pulp. Again, see point one.
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Are you asking me this because it's something you subconsciously believe?
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No, but you keep glossing over it as if it's acceptable. Which implies you take no issue with it or take very little issue with it. On the other hand, I've condemned it in every damn post, so not sure why you're accusing me aside from deflecting attention.
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Those ATRLers who refer to Ariana Grande as "Mexican" are trolling.
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Not all of them, and people off this site thought she was Mexican too  I'm not saying don't correct, I'm saying it's ultimately harmless, easily correctable mistake that won't cause longterm damage EXCEPT WHEN OTHER FACTORS ARE AT PLAY which cause people to commit hatecrimes. If there was no stigma against what are perceived to be Arab people, there wouldn't be much worry in the identification. Don't get why that's so hard for you to comprehend.
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Originally posted by Repo
No, I brought up the terrorism thing because that was the example in this case. Anti-Semitism, for example, is STILL more than "Woops! I thought you were Jewish and you weren't! My mistake!"
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Seriously? Please use context. We're talking about bigotry, not harmless "I thought Scherzinger was a Jewish surname." By the way ignorance always grows and grows into bigger problems so it's not just a simple mistake, especially in this context. Using the case in this thread, Priyanka is a dark-skinned South Asian so there's obviously going to be a lot more xenophobia towards her than Middle Eastern people who often pass as white or black like Dr. Oz or Hoda from the Today Show. Add that xenophobia to the ignorance about what "Middle Eastern" is and you get the situations I was describing before.
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Originally posted by Repo
No, but you keep glossing over it as if it's acceptable. Which implies you take no issue with it or take very little issue with it. On the other hand, I've condemned it in every damn post, so not sure why you're accusing me aside from deflecting attention.
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Everyone in this thread glossed over it because it's a given. Nobody here actually thinks Arab = terrorist. Again, the majority of the people who responded in this thread are ATRL's Arab members and they didn't bother condemning it because, again, it's a given. It's admirable that you're condemning it because it's like protesting against the idea that women can't perform well at work and should stay at home. It's stupid and not even worth addressing.
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Originally posted by Repo
Not all of them, and people off this site thought she was Mexican too  I'm not saying don't correct, I'm saying it's ultimately harmless, easily correctable mistake that won't cause longterm damage EXCEPT WHEN OTHER FACTORS ARE AT PLAY which cause people to commit hatecrimes. If there was no stigma against what are perceived to be Arab people, there wouldn't be much worry in the identification. Don't get why that's so hard for you to comprehend.
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I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with your implying that it's harmless and I've already addressed why. It's not just the Arab association with terrorism. Like I said above, it's just xenophobia that's being combined with ignorance that you're labeling as "ultimately harmless, easily correctable mistake that won't cause long term damage." But that's how ignorance always starts off before it grows.
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This thread is literally the pits
Hypocrisy & generalizations EVERYWHERE
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Originally posted by T-Swizz
This thread is literally the pits
Hypocrisy & generalizations EVERYWHERE
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Where's the hypocrisy and generalizations? If you're referring to the person who claimed all Arabs can pass as white, that was corrected by multiple people. If it's the Arabs supposedly being terrorists part, that's in Priyanka's comment.
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