Discussion: Gay Rights and SJW's - Page 6

Eaten By Lions

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Originally posted by Meowster

I'm fine with the public awareness part, public vigilantism, however, is an awful, awful thing though and it's a shame more people don't call them out on it.

I think people are arguing about different things in this thread. THIS is what I think of when I read "SJW". People who turn humiliating others online into a sport or a performance. I've seen it on twitter a number of times and it's horribly toxic.

Inverted

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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER

SJWs =/= activists.

Activists inspire real change in the real world. They devote their lives to humanitarianism and take action. SJWs just bash away at their keyboards, shaming and humiliating people left and right, demeaning instead of educating, at their computers 12 hours per day. This doesn't inspire change. It inspires likes and retweets. 'SJW' is a term reserved for that group of people. The ones who view human rights as a trend and didn't give a **** prior to 2013. So, no, these people are NOT responsible for LGBT rights. They're responsible for people seeing real activists in a negative light.

N.B. SJWs are the ones who come up with OTT terms like 'plantkin' and suggest that doctors are morally corrupt for assigning newborn babies a sex based on their genitalia. They expect to be mollycoddled by society and are disappointed when it doesn't happen. It's a little ... unhealthy.

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Originally posted by Torturo

These people who are being annoying online with their nonsense didn't help anyone. They are just creating bigger hate and gap in the society and are actually just a parody of a real activists.

What nonsense. Those "real" activists who inspire "real" change in the world are likely to have social media accounts themselves and say the same things as most "SJWs" do. You sound like the type of people who complain that black or feminist protesters are making their cause a joke by making people uncomfortable or unhappy. That's how protesting works.

Also, I highly doubt most "SJWs" spend 12 hours of their day on Twitter and Tumblr hunting down racists and homophobes. Finally, what on earth "plantkin"? You sound like you spend too much time on the Internet yourself. I highly doubt most people who support social justice on social media even know that is.

I also find it strange that people spend so much time complaining about "SJWs" and their argument always relies on fringe behavior. Again, I highly doubt most "SJWs" know what a plantkin is. More importantly, wouldn't it be worthwhile to actual complain about something that actually needs change rather than some random weirdos on Tumblr?

NathanB

This is honestly the stupidest thread I've read in a while.

No one uses the term ''sjw'' to refer to real activists. It's used to make fun of fools like this:

heckinglovato

I agree with the OP on everything. Educate them.

Bey Admired

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Originally posted by NathanB

This is honestly the stupidest thread I've read in a while.

No one uses the term ''sjw'' to refer to real activists. It's used to make fun of fools like this:

They do though.

And no one is defending the ridiculousness of the content of that picture.

hairofglory

Capitalism, the very thing SJW hate, is more responsible for gay rights, FACT

cloudinthesky

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Originally posted by Redstreak

The SJW term is just nonsensical at this point and is probably the most overused internet term. At this point it's just synonymous with "any person who takes one step further on a social issue than I'm willing to go."

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Originally posted by Flare

And this is why I don't come into these threads anymore. The same people who the general atrl user praises and says "Yas so much tea

" in these types of threads, is usually someone who has said something racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc. in another thread or elsewhere recently. Y'all are forever promoting the people who are part of the problem because you "hate" SJWs so much.

SJW was a self-coined term by activists online by activists who were...online (I know crazy concept right?). It rose up in popularity online as social media rose hence the social in the name. It was turned into an insult by (teenage) male-dominated sites like 4Chan, Reddit, and more recently people involved with GamerGate long before a small vocal minority of SJWs, made the term (somewhat) sour through their own actions. Before that though, SJWs were still making movements online and "in the real world" without all the push back from the new found Anti-SJW crowd who are intent on making SJW a villainous concept. What you don't realize is, SJW's who actually care about the issues will still rise through and push for change whether they're called an SJW or not. The social change is happening and has been happening through the use of the internet to organize and coordinate it. People can keep fuming and venting their little hate on SJWs (the generalizations too is a good look atrl, since you would think a site with many gay and bisexual males wouldn't want to be generalized but they do the same to everyone else) but it only says more about yourself and what you spend your time on than others.

The real title of this thread should ask: Why do we see more people pop out the woodworks to bash SJWs than people who actually are concerned with the "real issues" (that certain people love to vaguely mention when bashing SJWs) on this site?

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Originally posted by RightAsRain

Some people here complain about sjw(a pejorative term for minorities that speak out on issues affecting them or others) because as long as it isn't homophobia they don't care....they too are secretly (or not so secretly) racists and they want to be allowed to be cruel and terrible to their fellow humans without people "whining" about their bigotry. They are a mess and a half!

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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick

It reminds me of when people say this to protesters (who get their fair of criticism as well): "I'm not racist but could your protest be a little quieter? Oh and your sign could look a little better. No one is going to take you seriously the way you dress." It's like....that is what these people take away from the issue at hand.

I am, however, 100% aware that some people do too much...but I'd rather live in a world where people are doing too much for justice, even if it gets a little silly (such as canceling yoga because of cultural appropriation) as opposed to an apathetic world where no one campaigns for anything...or even worse, a world rampant with racism, homophobia, etc etc (oops too late for that).

People need to stop rushing to the keyboards to spam "SjWs!!!11 tUMBLR!!1 omg distracting from the real issues' and simply look at the real issues. The fact is many people would rather use this tactic than actually admit to what is going on.

all of this

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Originally posted by EdwardB

If you are trying to tell me that cultural appropriation is a "real issue" in this world,I'm sorry,You need to set your priorities straight.
There are people with no food and no access to water,wars,terrorism,the power of money,criminality,illnesses...those are "real issues" in my world.

These issues are not mutually exclusive. People can care about and focus on more than one issue at a time. Also, cultural appropriation is a real thing, whether you believe in it or not.

Not everything that people claim is cultural appropriation actually is (like a white girl wearing braids is not cultural appropriation), but that doesn't in any way diminish the fact that it is a real thing.

Rama

Very well put OP

XtinaPanicGodney

Huge difference between an activist and a SJW.

Eric.

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Originally posted by swissman

I find the term SJW, like the term PC to be merely a pejorative way to describe a certain type of person. It’s dismissive of the actual issue, and attempts to replace the need for empathy and compassion for human rights with someone having a personal issue within being too sensitive. Essentially anyone who labels someone as such is merely showing their inability to care about listening to the problems and concerns of other human beings.

Couldn't say it better myself.

Anyone who complains about the PC language police "taking away their freedom of speech," should exercise their precious freedom by start calling everyone the N-word in a Brooklyn basketball court.

MARTYN

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Originally posted by AMENHOOKER

SJWs =/= activists.

Activists inspire real change in the real world. They devote their lives to humanitarianism and take action. SJWs just bash away at their keyboards, shaming and humiliating people left and right, demeaning instead of educating, at their computers 12 hours per day. This doesn't inspire change. It inspires likes and retweets. 'SJW' is a term reserved for that group of people. The ones who view human rights as a trend and didn't give a **** prior to 2013. So, no, these people are NOT responsible for LGBT rights. They're responsible for people seeing real activists in a negative light.

N.B. SJWs are the ones who come up with OTT terms like 'plantkin' and suggest that doctors are morally corrupt for assigning newborn babies a sex based on their genitalia. They expect to be mollycoddled by society and are disappointed when it doesn't happen. It's a little ... unhealthy.

This should end the discussion.