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Discussion: How did Britney rule the world?
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Originally posted by Scepter
source? or are just making things up again like you britney stand are known to do.
and lotus did outsell bj, and was a different era from Say Something. she was stunning/marketable in SS. one of the main reasons why Britney's career is over is because she can't look close to as good as she used to be.
c6 will outsell b9
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On a weekly basis, Nielsen collects point-of-sale (POS) data in 19 countries across the U.S., Canada, Europe and Oceania. In the U.S. and Canada, physical and digital titles from venues, mass merchants, retail chains, independent record stores and digital download providers can be viewed by UPC, ISRC, artist, market, retailer type or genre. In Europe and Oceania, digital track and song sales are available in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand.
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Source: http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutio...asurement.html
They've left out their Asian branches, too (most notably Japan). The most reliable fanbase strikes again
Britney's still got higher digital single sales and moves many more singles through catalog sales (see: "Toxic" moving more catalog sales than any Christina song ever) and her albums are still selling more  Christina could pull three more "Say Something's" and she'd still come up short
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Originally posted by Scepter
Xtina stans don't cling to their fave's debut 
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So you'd rather your fave's sales look like:
Stripped - 4,383,000
Back 2 Basics - 1,712,000
Bionic - 326,120
Lotus - 292,014
That's fewer albums sold than Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga and Rihanna
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Originally posted by Scepter
Xtina stans don't cling to their fave's debut 
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Yeah you guys just cling to Say Something 
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Originally posted by Eternium
Source: http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutio...asurement.html
They've left out their Asian branches, too (most notably Japan). The most reliable fanbase strikes again
Britney's still got higher digital single sales and moves many more singles through catalog sales (see: "Toxic" moving more catalog sales than any Christina song ever) and her albums are still selling more  Christina could pull three more "Say Something's" and she'd still come up short
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you said 30, but your link says 19. where did you get 30 from?
why did they leave out the Asian branches? could it be because they no longer operate there?
they probably are for Japan, but then that would be 20 countries and not 30
Xtina is a stronger albums artist.
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Originally posted by Eternium
So you'd rather your fave's sales look like:
Stripped - 4,383,000
Back 2 Basics - 1,712,000
Bionic - 326,120
Lotus - 292,014
That's fewer albums sold than Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga and Rihanna
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we don't cling to her debut and total sales because we know for as long as Xtina is beautiful and talented, she'll continue to stay relevant and periodically successful for many more years to come.
sorry about your fave 
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She just did 
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These essays don't change the fact that Britney clearly could only rule a year, and not multiple years like her bigger peer Christina Aguilera.
+ Ya'll keep bringing up collabos like it's a bad thing, Britney's last, and final hit's a collabo (S&S), and Brit released 2 collabos this year trying to get a hit but they both bombed.
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Britney Spears used to be one of the most popular pop acts in the world indeed, but saying that she was the only one at the top of the game is quite delusional.
In 1999 she had to share her spotlight with Christina Aguilera - although both did very well in the US market and Britney even outselling Christina's album sales overseas, Christina had more hit singles off her debut album - so it was basically a tie. It was definitely all about Christina and Britney for two years or so.
2001-2002: her third album was a great commercial success but its singles tanked. Even though her fans like to address "I'm a Slave 4 U" as a huge hit single, it was far from being one. It did have an iconic VMA performance but that was pretty much this. On the other hand, artists like P!nk and newcomer Avril Lavigne were doing far better than her on the charts.
2003: again, Christina being her main rival. Even though In the Zone came out when Christina was about to finish her Stripped Era, she gave her a hard time: Christina won every possible award she could get that year (minus VMAs), she grossed the biggest female tour of the year (over 100M, when Britney struggled to reach the 60M mark with her latest tour at the time.) And of course, Stripped being another multi-platinum album and scoring hit singles. Add Beyoncé to that package and the way that "Crazy in Love" came strong for "Toxic"s wig. Oh, let us not forget J-Lo - another HUGE threat in the US market.
From 2007 to 2011, she had to share the spot with even more pop girls. Rihanna, Beyoncé (again!), P!nk, Lady Gaga... failing at overcoming any of them.
Nowadays... well, I don't even know where to start it.
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She was ultra talented, gorgeous, and offered a triple threat (vocalist/dancer/actress). The other girls of the era couldn't come close.
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Originally posted by Scepter
you said 30, but your link says 19. where did you get 30 from?
why did they leave out the Asian branches? could it be because they no longer operate there?
they probably are for Japan, but then that would be 20 countries and not 30
Xtina is a stronger albums artist.
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The link lists 21 countries, sis. They have Nielsen in 100 countries in some capacity or another. And most of the Asian Nielsen Soundscan entities are used for Billboard charts still (see Billboard Japan and the K-Pop Hot 100).
Christina's global album sales are less than half of Britney's. Her Nielsen Soundscan sales are at 17,900,000 in the U.S. and Britney is at 33,222,983.
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Originally posted by Scepter
we don't cling to her debut and total sales because we know for as long as Xtina is beautiful and talented, she'll continue to stay relevant and periodically successful for many more years to come.
sorry about your fave 
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My fave is still more globally successful, incredibly more relevant (see none of her albums missing the top 5 in the U.S. like Lotus) and much more beautiful. Don't feel bad for me
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Originally posted by Beautiful Garbage
In 1999 she had to share her spotlight with Christina Aguilera - although both did very well in the US market and Britney even outselling Christina's album sales overseas, Christina had more hit singles off her debut album - so it was basically a tie.
2001-2002: her third album was a great commercial success but its singles tanked. Even though her fans like to address "I'm a Slave 4 U" as a huge hit single, it was far from being one. It did have an iconic VMA performance but that was pretty much this. On the other hand, artists like P!nk and newcomer Avril Lavigne were doing far better than her on the charts.
2003: again, Christina being her main rival. Even though In the Zone came out when Christina was about to finish her Stripped Era, she gave her a hard time: Christina won every possible award she could get that year (minus VMAs), she grossed the biggest female tour of the year (over 100M, when Britney struggled to reach the 60M mark with her latest tour at the time.) And of course, Stripped being another multi-platinum album and scoring hit singles. Add Beyoncé to that package and the way that "Crazy in Love" came strong for "Toxic"s wig. Oh, let us not forget J-Lo - another HUGE threat in the US market.
From 2007 to 2011, she had to share the spot with even more pop girls. Rihanna, Beyoncé (again!), P!nk, Lady Gaga... failing at overcoming any of them.
Nowadays... well, I don't even know where to start it.
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Just a couple of notes:
* Christina's debut album sold 14M WW and its singles sold less WW than Britney's. They only charted better in the U.S. because they had physical releases whereas Britney's singles sans ...BOMT and From the Bottom of My Broken Heart (the 8th best-selling single of the past decade) did. Britney's singles far outperformed Christina's WW, her tour grossed considerably more and her album sold 25M WW. She easily outdid Christina
* "I'm a Slave 4 U" had a radio ban in the U.S. Britney is the fourth highest-selling album released in 2001, regardless.
* Stripped was done WW by the time In the Zone was released. "Me Against the Music" outpeaked any Christina Aguilera single despite having a radio ban in the U.S. and Britney's follow-up single "Toxic" (her first after winning her lawsuit against Clear Channel in late 2003) was a bigger hit than Christina has ever had. Its digital sales, recurrent views and recurrent airplay are incredible.
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Yeah for a couple era.
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Better than never ;'(
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She didn't rule any world lol. Her debut was big (although EXTREMELY local) and then she started plummeting after that. She ruled those 2 years and then she was ALWAYS overshadowed by Beyoncé, Christina and many other artists.
She had a cute run back then, but she was always second best.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Stahp. You think _____ a trendsetter. While Taylor Swift [and countless more] come on the radio with another Max Martin track designed to capitalize on the phenomenon that was Britney Spears and pretend she set no trends all you want, but it won't change anything 
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Nnnnnnnn
The last part... I can't stress it enough.
It effortlessly drags 90% of atrl to hell and back.

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combination of getting lucky with great management/producers/etc who gave her the right image and music and having that star power/spark/whatever you want to call it. not to mention she worked hard and hustled at the time, promoted like crazy, danced her ass off, etc.
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Originally posted by Beautiful Garbage
Britney Spears used to be one of the most popular pop acts in the world indeed, but saying that she was the only one at the top of the game is quite delusional.
In 1999 she had to share her spotlight with Christina Aguilera - although both did very well in the US market and Britney even outselling Christina's album sales overseas, Christina had more hit singles off her debut album - so it was basically a tie. It was definitely all about Christina and Britney for two years or so.
2001-2002: her third album was a great commercial success but its singles tanked. Even though her fans like to address "I'm a Slave 4 U" as a huge hit single, it was far from being one. It did have an iconic VMA performance but that was pretty much this. On the other hand, artists like P!nk and newcomer Avril Lavigne were doing far better than her on the charts.
2003: again, Christina being her main rival. Even though In the Zone came out when Christina was about to finish her Stripped Era, she gave her a hard time: Christina won every possible award she could get that year (minus VMAs), she grossed the biggest female tour of the year (over 100M, when Britney struggled to reach the 60M mark with her latest tour at the time.) And of course, Stripped being another multi-platinum album and scoring hit singles. Add Beyoncé to that package and the way that "Crazy in Love" came strong for "Toxic"s wig. Oh, let us not forget J-Lo - another HUGE threat in the US market.
From 2007 to 2011, she had to share the spot with even more pop girls. Rihanna, Beyoncé (again!), P!nk, Lady Gaga... failing at overcoming any of them.
Nowadays... well, I don't even know where to start it.
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No sweetie, you keep contradicting yourself in every paragraph.
I stopped taking you seriously when you tried to imply that hit singles>album sales.
If your skewed, biasly categorized logic was true, then why did Brit end up selling more than everyone mentioned?
Not only sales but why does Britney have more recognized songs from that era than all of the number ones that "overcame" her?
Of course the Stripped tour grossed more than DWAD! Though very far from "100M"  it grossed a bit more than dwad because it lasted more than Britney's tour. She toured more countries than Britney. The DWADT wasn't a real world tour.
Also, the "Britney" era had no US hit singles and was severely damaged by 9/11 as were other artists at the time. Britney was radio banned and concentrating on her movies. Plus wasn't Xtina the opening act for JT's Justified tour at the beginning?
Again in 2007. How can you compare her efforts with the others who were peaking when Brit was at her lowest? Even then Britney managed to start many trends and get her most artistically appraised, most influencial album (according to Rolling Stones) in that state.
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Originally posted by teresaguidice
combination of getting lucky with great management/producers/etc who gave her the right image and music and having that star power/spark/whatever you want to call it. not to mention she worked hard and hustled at the time, promoted like crazy, danced her ass off, etc.
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Except she had to kick her team off the set when she decided to do the Lolita image. And she forced them to let her shoot a real video for "...Baby One More Time" (the schoolgirl outfit from K-Mart was her idea) instead of the Transformers-esque video they wanted. She also was the one who wanted the red latex suit for "Oops!...I Did It Again" and the nude bodysuit for "Toxic" (where, again, she kicked her team off the set and only left Joseph Kahn there to shoot). Her team didn't even want her to release "Toxic."
Why is it so hard to give a female credit?
And that's not a shot at you. I just wanted to use your comment as a jumping-off point.
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just was the favourite back in the days!
im started to miss the days when Britney, Avril etc slayed  i don't like this new era.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Except she had to kick her team off the set when she decided to do the Lolita image. And she forced them to let her shoot a real video for "...Baby One More Time" (the schoolgirl outfit from K-Mart was her idea) instead of the Transformers-esque video they wanted. She also was the one who wanted the red latex suit for "Oops!...I Did It Again" and the nude bodysuit for "Toxic" (where, again, she kicked her team off the set and only left Joseph Kahn there to shoot). Her team didn't even want her to release "Toxic."
Why is it so hard to give a female credit?
And that's not a shot at you. I just wanted to use your comment as a jumping-off point.
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This.
Plus her team has being screwing up since day one.
She could've had way more #1 singles, sold millions of albums more and grossed much more on tour had her team not screwed up.
They are lucky the girl they were marketing has such great intuition and the real X factor and the charisma and talent to run this empire known as Britney Spears.
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Originally posted by Evolution
She didn't rule any world lol. Her debut was big (although EXTREMELY local) and then she started plummeting after that. She ruled those 2 years and then she was ALWAYS overshadowed by Beyoncé, Christina and many other artists.
She had a cute run back then, but she was always second best.
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One would assume you'd know better about local acts.

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I love Christina too but let's be honest and real, she'll always be on Britney's shadow. So stop it.
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