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Discussion: #PrayForTheWorld = #AllLivesMatter ?
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Originally posted by Repo
It IS an attempt to silence #Pray4Paris. These posts are hateful, spiteful, and quite literally try to make anyone who says #Pray4Paris feel guilty. They were occurring during the terrorist attack, even. They would not be posted if it was #Pray4ThirdWorldCountry (Pick one that just had a terrorist attack) with Paris being snubbed because these people don't care. They're just trying to act enlightened so they can pat themselves on the back and say "Look at me! I'm so enlightened!"
Obviously, yes, other countries matter. And it IS valid to criticize media for under-representing them... but these people don't target media, they target people on Facebook and Twitter who have no control over representation. Likewise, the timing IS wrong. Criticizing the lack of attention to other countries during a f***ing terrorist attack goes beyond insensitive, and, honestly, doing it just a day or two after is awful too.
I'd also like to point out these people weren't out saying #Pray4TheWorld BEFORE Paris was attacked. These terrorist attacks had already happened. If these people thought they were being ignored, bring them up. You don't need to wait for mainstream media to cover one to say "You guys are snubbing X, Y, and Z!" This is an incredibly disingenuous movement that IS about drawing as much attention away from Paris as possible
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Originally posted by YUNGKALIMXEL
Well, the original hashtag was #BlackLivesMatter after all the incidents of police brutality that were going on earlier this year. Then entitled whites on social media were saying "hey, I feel unincluded in this hashtag! My life matters too!!!!1!" and thus they created the moronic hashtag "#AllLivesMatter". The point of the original hashtag wasn't "#OnlyBlackLivesMatter", but obviously other lives are more valued than black lives when innocent black people are dying/becoming injured at the hands of police officers.
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But all lives do
Matter. Black people arent the only minorities. Gay people, Mexicans, Asians. By saying black lives matter, you're just trying to drive a bigger wedge between everyone. We all matter. Black people aren't the only ones who have ever been enslaved or murdered by people in power.
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Originally posted by Repo
It IS an attempt to silence #Pray4Paris. These posts are hateful, spiteful, and quite literally try to make anyone who says #Pray4Paris feel guilty. They were occurring during the terrorist attack, even. They would not be posted if it was #Pray4ThirdWorldCountry (Pick one that just had a terrorist attack) with Paris being snubbed because these people don't care. They're just trying to act enlightened so they can pat themselves on the back and say "Look at me! I'm so enlightened!"
Obviously, yes, other countries matter. And it IS valid to criticize media for under-representing them... but these people don't target media, they target people on Facebook and Twitter who have no control over representation. Likewise, the timing IS wrong. Criticizing the lack of attention to other countries during a f***ing terrorist attack goes beyond insensitive, and, honestly, doing it just a day or two after is awful too.
I'd also like to point out these people weren't out saying #Pray4TheWorld BEFORE Paris was attacked. These terrorist attacks had already happened. If these people thought they were being ignored, bring them up. You don't need to wait for mainstream media to cover one to say "You guys are snubbing X, Y, and Z!" This is an incredibly disingenuous movement that IS about drawing as much attention away from Paris as possible
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Hmm after reading this I agree.
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AllLivesMatter and PrayForTheWorld are the same thing. The US just wants to be offended over everything
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I think some of you are plain ignorant. Y'all do realize that over a thousand people had been killed in the Sub-Saharan region from terrorist attacks before Paris? How many white people had been killed by cops before #AllLivesMatter? Y'all are literally doing the same thing people are speaking out against, considering some people from some regions of the world more important than others and neglecting those that are also human as well and never receive the kind of response they deserve. Literally no one is speaking against the Paris attacks concerns, and again, people are just saying that the same concern should be considered on a global level. Notice how the G20 will now speak on the matter, which has existed prior to now for a while just not that much in the West. How is it hard to get? 
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Originally posted by AccioMiley
But all lives do
Matter. Black people arent the only minorities. Gay people, Mexicans, Asians. By saying black lives matter, you're just trying to drive a bigger wedge between everyone. We all matter. Black people aren't the only ones who have ever been enslaved or murdered by people in power.
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BlackLivesMatter is not saying that other people have not been killed by people in power.
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Originally posted by Repo
It IS an attempt to silence #Pray4Paris. These posts are hateful, spiteful, and quite literally try to make anyone who says #Pray4Paris feel guilty. They were occurring during the terrorist attack, even. They would not be posted if it was #Pray4ThirdWorldCountry (Pick one that just had a terrorist attack) with Paris being snubbed because these people don't care. They're just trying to act enlightened so they can pat themselves on the back and say "Look at me! I'm so enlightened!"
Obviously, yes, other countries matter. And it IS valid to criticize media for under-representing them... but these people don't target media, they target people on Facebook and Twitter who have no control over representation. Likewise, the timing IS wrong. Criticizing the lack of attention to other countries during a f***ing terrorist attack goes beyond insensitive, and, honestly, doing it just a day or two after is awful too.
I'd also like to point out these people weren't out saying #Pray4TheWorld BEFORE Paris was attacked. These terrorist attacks had already happened. If these people thought they were being ignored, bring them up. You don't need to wait for mainstream media to cover one to say "You guys are snubbing X, Y, and Z!" This is an incredibly disingenuous movement that IS about drawing as much attention away from Paris as possible
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This times 1 million  All the hipster liberal snobs were spamming that PrayForTheWorld thing left and right during and after the attacks. It's a pretentious and snotty way of saying "look at ME. I'm globally knowledgable!"
While it's not particularly offensive imo; I think it's dumb. I also think the people who thought it was some kind of introspective enlightened hashtag are even more clueless.
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Originally posted by ezra
This times 1 million All the hipster liberal snobs were spamming that PrayForTheWorld thing left and right during and after the attacks. It's a pretentious and snotty way of saying "look at ME. I'm globally knowledgable!"
While it's not particularly offensive imo; I think it's dumb. I also think the people who thought it was some kind of introspective enlightened hashtag are even more clueless. |
Many liberals have also posted Pray4Paris 
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
BlackLivesMatter is not saying that other people have not been killed by people in power.
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I'm not saying it is. What I'm saying is we need to stop segregating each other and come together. We're all humans. We've all had struggles. We need to start looking at each other as equals. We all need to realize that maybe the government doesn't want us unified. They want us all against each other. It's easier to control us that way
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Many liberals have also posted Pray4Paris |
I think that's why they classified them as "hipster liberal snobs" instead of just "liberals." Lol. But yeah. Obviously not all liberals are pushing this. This is one of those cases where it really started as a Social Justice Warrior thing and then, like with #AllLivesMatter, people with genuinely good intentions who didn't understand why the movement started or why people object to it began to jump in. Both movements do make some valid points, but the origins of both are incredibly problematic
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Okay but no one says pray4lebanon? Where's pray4uganda? How about pray4syria?
This is such a tragedy but the only reason anyone cares is because it's in Paris, and the world needs much more prayer. However I don't think pray4theworld is an attempt to silence people or being said in the same way as alllivesmatter
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Originally posted by AccioMiley
I'm not saying it is. What I'm saying is we need to stop segregating each other and come together. We're all humans. We've all had struggles. We need to start looking at each other as equals. We all need to realize that maybe the government doesn't want us unified. They want us all against each other. It's easier to control us that way
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This basically.
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Originally posted by Repo
Because a bunch of people just DIED. The reason it's getting coverage is because it is completely unexpected (I'm sorry, but we know the middle east has it terrible. We can't throw a media-fest everytime there's a death because, unfortunately, we would have no time for any other news.
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There's NEVER a media "fest" for what happens in the ME. What happened in Beirut and Paris were LESS THAN 24 HOURS APART.
So yes, it is a big deal.
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Originally posted by AccioMiley
I'm not saying it is. What I'm saying is we need to stop segregating each other and come together. We're all humans. We've all had struggles. We need to start looking at each other as equals. We all need to realize that maybe the government doesn't want us unified. They want us all against each other. It's easier to control us that way
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No, there are black people, there are white people, and so on. You should acknowledge this first and foremost.
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Originally posted by AccioMiley
But all lives do
Matter. Black people arent the only minorities. Gay people, Mexicans, Asians. By saying black lives matter, you're just trying to drive a bigger wedge between everyone. We all matter. Black people aren't the only ones who have ever been enslaved or murdered by people in power.
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And that has nothing to do with the BLM movement
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It's not the same, because the World is in need of support, but only Paris is getting it.
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Originally posted by Eternium
No. #AllLivesMatter is a response to silence #BlackLivesMatter.
#Pray4TheWorld is a call for Western countries to realize that there are bombings and mass killings by the same groups in places like Beirut and Baghdad that didn't even get attention.
Tl:dr: #Pray4TheWorld is about giving a voice to everyone whereas #AllLivesMatter is about taking away the voice of a minority group and all that support them.
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Originally posted by PromKing
There's NEVER a media "fest" for what happens in the ME. What happened in Beirut and Paris were LESS THAN 24 HOURS APART.
So yes, it is a big deal.
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The fact that the person you quoted basically said "Bombings in the Middle East, it's common there, why should we focus on it?"
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I don't think so.
#Pray4TheWorld is more focused on bringing additional attention to places that have also suffered like Paris, but did not receive the same kind of media attention.
#AllLivesMatter was created to diminish the meaning of #BlackLivesMatter by (mostly) white people who don't feel included (however I do take issue with the fact that #BlackLivesMatter fails to include/recognize/advocate for the struggles of any other minorities). The difference is white people haven't suffered like black people, whereas the places included in #Pray4TheWorld have all suffered at the hands of terrorist groups.
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Originally posted by Auburn
I don't think so.
#Pray4TheWorld is more focused on bringing additional attention to places that have also suffered like Paris, but did not receive the same kind of media attention.
#AllLivesMatter was created to diminish the meaning of #BlackLivesMatter by (mostly) white people who don't feel included (however I do take issue with the fact that #BlackLivesMatter fails to include/recognize/advocate for the struggles of any other minorities). The difference is white people haven't suffered like black people, whereas the places included in #Pray4TheWorld have all suffered at the hands of terrorist groups.
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Even Katy Perry tweeted #AllLivesMatter. I seriously doubt she was trying to diminish the movement. Rather, she was attempting to breach the gap between all the different races that get treated terribly in other situations and not just black lives. That's the point behind it. Obviously, when people were tweeting AllLivesMatter during Sandra Blands case breaking news then yeah that's offensive.
PrayForTheWorld is offensive mostly due to the timing - right during attacks people were trying to tell the world that they didn't matter and we should pay attention to other things. It's sick.
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