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News: Gay Male Sexism is Alive and Well
Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Get over it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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How is everything she said only applies to white gay males?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by FunkyDinevo
this a'int gonna go well with the gays on ATRL cause, well, you know..
but the article is true
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...are typical white gay men who ignore their position of privilege in the world.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Guernica
I'm female and I totally agree that the gay male misogyny is disgusting and out of hand. they think that just because they are not sexualizing us that they are respecting us but that isn't true. they degrade and judge us just as much as straight men do, but it makes no sense coming from a gay male because they shouldn't care about what we look like at all.
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The things these boys say about females on this website is truly disgusting, and they think it's okay because they're not trying to sleep with us or whatever.
SO stupid. I can't stand some of the threads on here.
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The topic of misogyny among gay men is a difficult one to broach. In my experience, men either simply refuse to believe the phenomenon exists, or the conversation is quickly derailed ("yeah, but what about homophobic women?").
I tell her that I often hear off-handed remarks like, "Vaginas are disgusting, I don't know how anyone could have sex with one," and Sin agrees. "If I mention my period, I have gay friends say, 'Ewww, stop that's disgusting!' No, it's my body and it's not disgusting." This, I would suggest, also comes from a lazy, thoughtless assertion of gay men's sexual identity—but to assert you love dick doesn't mean you have to feign disgust at women and their bodies. It's as offensive as it is ridiculous: After all, calling vaginas gross is pretty rich coming from people who have anal sex.
On gay dating apps, men frequently describe their preference for straight-acting or masculine partners, with some profiles explicitly specifying, "No femmes." Conversely, expression of desire is often fetishizing, crude, and unsolicited. Just this morning, one charmer asked me on Grindr, "will u dress up in knickers and stockings for me ****ty boy?" This refracted misogyny is also projected onto the top and bottom roles in gay sex: If I wear mascara in a profile picture, I can reasonably expect to be told how my 'hole' will be pounded, ruined, or devastated.
Among white gay men, the idolizing of black female artists such as Beyonce, combined with slang picked up from RuPaul's Drag Race, can produce excruciating stereotypes of black women—all dressed up as appreciation. At Push The Button, a gay pop music night in London, white gay men attended its annual Spice Girls party in Afro wigs, blacked up in an apparent homage to Mel B.
"I've heard white gay men joking about having a 'strong black woman' inside of them. It's a cultural stereotype that implies [black women] have no problems and is reductive about our experience," explains Ava Vidal, a British TV stand-up comic and writer. "There's a lot of this stuff—mimicking Ebonics, joking about their 'weaves'—not realizing it dehumanizes us. It's not flattering. They want all the fun parts of our culture without experiencing any downsides."
What happens when she challenges these gay men? "They turn nasty and almost bully you about it. These white men are not listening to black women. How many times do they have to be told before they listen?"
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Dear lord, this tea is TOO HOT for ATRL.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Ewww, stop that's disgusting!' No, it's my body and it's not disgusting." This, I would suggest, also comes from a lazy, thoughtless assertion of gay men's sexual identity—but to assert you love dick doesn't mean you have to feign disgust at women and their bodies. It's as offensive as it is ridiculous: After all, calling vaginas gross is pretty rich coming from people who have anal sex.
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this is so contradicting. so gay men arent allowed to get grossed out by female bodies and their sex lives, but she can then go on to say how disgusting anal sex is? interesting
i agree that there is sexism in the gay community, but this article just doesnt make a lot of sense in places tbh
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Member Since: 7/4/2007
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Hmm, I remember saying this in some thread on ATRL, and people were like "What? No, we like female entertainers, therefore we can't be misogynistic."
Oh right, it was a Hillary Clinton thread.
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Member Since: 9/13/2009
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It's called freedom of speech. Stop being so sensitive Gosh
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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SPEAK ON IT, yass. But dead @ her throwing in a dig at anal sex when not only do women also have anal sex, but if you're making this about respectability, why are you throwing that shade in the same breath as your contradicting statement.
Everything else is on point, I know some of y'all will come in here fuming despite how true this is .\
edit - I also understand narrowing this down to white male gays, but I personally think it's odd to focus on the white part when it's true for gay men in general
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by FunkyDinevo
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SCREAMING at this quote ceuvbruivbbvquiwbecurv
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by holocene
The things these boys say about females on this website is truly disgusting, and they think it's okay because they're not trying to sleep with us or whatever.
SO stupid. I can't stand some of the threads on here.
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They say some of the worst things about women and think it's okay.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I think some of them don't really realize what they are saying tbh. While others do use it offensively (example: alot of gays on ATRL)
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Homebrand
How is everything she said only applies to white gay males?
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Ikr lol
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
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Originally posted by holocene
The things these boys say about females on this website is truly disgusting, and they think it's okay because they're not trying to sleep with us or whatever.
SO stupid. I can't stand some of the threads on here.
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I've heard "at least we're not sexually harassing you like straight men do" as if that somehow excuses their behavior or makes it better...? like no, you can still degrade a woman without sexually harassing her
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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I hate the times we live in.
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
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zzz can women stop picking on other minority groups to assert their agenda k thanks
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
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"There's a lot of this stuff—mimicking Ebonics, joking about their 'weaves'—not realizing it dehumanizes us. It's not flattering. They want all the fun parts of our culture without experiencing any downsides."
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Lmfao. They're gonna use this against everyone, huh.
Let me just not tonight.
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Member Since: 8/11/2012
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Originally posted by Harry
It's called freedom of speech. Stop being so sensitive Gosh
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It's called ignorance, and you have it in spades.
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