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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Chucko
It's not really that stupid, no one should wait for a or expect a politician to help them. If you are in the mindset then you are ignorant. If the past has not shown you this the last 7 years should have opened your eyes.
All people should take the initiative to improve themselves and that starts with good parenting.
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Thank you...sometimes the truth just hurts. A lot of parents within poor black communities doom their children to failure right off the bat, cause they teach their children co-dependency on the government.Any black person that tries to improve themselves out of those communities is ostracized as not being true to their "culture", and trying to act "white". 
It's a cultural problem...those communities need to realize racism will never go away, and wallowing in the unfairness of life will continue to hold them back. Only self improvement will take them out of poverty, and increase their standard of living.
Politicians want them focus on "racism", cause it masks he fact that the politicians haven't done a damn thing to truly improve those communities. Pretty words and empty promises don't mean s***! 
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All of that's great, but certain policies affect some communities more than others and you're dense to think otherwise.
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HILLARY IS LOSING IN MINNESOTA
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Survey USA has released a new poll of voters in deep-blue Minnesota. The results should be alarming to Democrats everywhere. The poll shows just about every Republican tested–Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump–beating Hillary Clinton, if the election were held today. Jeb Bush is +1 against Hillary, within the margin of error, and Hillary beats Ted Cruz by five points.
What’s interesting is that these are mostly voters who pull the lever for Democrats. The same Survey USA poll shows Governor Mark Dayton, Senator Al Franken and Senator Amy Klobuchar with approval ratings of 52%, 55% and 60%, respectively. Yet Minnesotans really, really don’t like Barack Obama. He currently is under water by a stunning 37%/56% margin. And that’s no fluke: polls in recent years have generally shown him with poor approval ratings in the state, notwithstanding the fact that he carried it twice.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Thank you...sometimes the truth just hurts. A lot of parents within poor black communities doom their children to failure right off the bat, cause they teach their children co-dependency on the government.Any black person that tries to improve themselves out of those communities is ostracized as not being true to their "culture", and trying to act "white".
It's a cultural problem...those communities need to realize racism will never go away, and wallowing in the unfairness of life will continue to hold them back. Only self improvement will take them out of poverty, and increase their standard of living.
Politicians want them focus on "racism", cause it masks he fact that the politicians haven't done a damn thing to truly improve those communities. Pretty words and empty promises don't mean s***! |
The picture you paint on black people is quite disturbing.
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Originally posted by Javan
The picture you paint on black people is quite disturbing.
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It isn't a blanket statement towards all blacks or even all black parents, actually it applies to all poor people; white, black, etc... Where in his post does he paint all black people as poor and needy? I think maybe that is the image you have in your head.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
No...the black community should be no different than white, hispanic, or asian communities who teach their children responsibility and upward mobility. The ghetto culture of some black communities is a cancer that holds the black youth back, thus repeating the cycle for their children.
They have to take initiative to improve themselves... no politician is going to save the poor blacks, in fact the politicians want them to stay poor so they have to depend on government. :coffee2:
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What an ignorant statement.
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Originally posted by Chucko
It's not really that stupid, no one should wait for a or expect a politician to help them. If you are in the mindset then you are ignorant. If the past has not shown you this the last 7 years should have opened your eyes.
All people should take the initiative to improve themselves and that starts with good parenting.
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I'm sorry but that was one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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Your post had merit until you mangled it with the "good parenting" mess. Get off Breitbart please, you're just as tone deaf as the other guy.
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Originally posted by Radiance
Missed the events of the last week, any big changes? How did the Dems do in the forum?
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O'Malley proved he wants this presidential nomination more than ever. Much better performance than the 1st Dem debate. Bernie is still going on about the 1% without really providing real effective policies to get it done. He slips a little when talking about other issues especially when it comes to foreign policies. However, he proved he is more than just this grumpy old man against Wall Street. We got a glimpse of a sweeter side to him. President Hillary Clinton is still on the role tackling all major issues and not excluding or alienating anyone. If she keeps this up, she'll have the nomination without a doubt.
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Originally posted by Chucko
It isn't a blanket statement towards all blacks or even all black parents, actually it applies to all poor people; white, black, etc... Where in his post does he paint all black people as poor and needy? I think maybe that is the image you have in your head.
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That's not what I was even talking about. I was referring to his imagery of blacks as idle dreamers "wallowing in the unfairness of life" and waiting for politician to fix their problems, being the fundamental reason why their community is impoverished.
"Black parents are the ones dooming their children and consequently the black community" and not racist government programs/agencies etc, say when Ferguson cops fine black people for things as petty as sagging pants, or drinking beer too close to an open grill...
Also it's really rich how he can criticise blacks for "government co-dependency" as if their weren't several government programs and laws that have shaped the US economy as we know it today and put whites at the top. The government are literally the reason blacks live in ghettos and whites in suburbs. That was handed to y'all. And he wants to talk about government dependancy. The cheek of it all 
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Originally posted by Damien M
I'm sorry but that was one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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Your post had merit until you mangled it with the "good parenting" mess. Get off Breitbart please, you're just as tone deaf as the other guy.
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We are just not going to agree on good parenting, I didn't read it, I received it. I have seen first hand growing up what a difference it makes.
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Originally posted by Javan
That's not what I was even talking about. I was referring to his imagery of blacks as idle dreamers "wallowing in the unfairness of life" and waiting for politician to fix their problems, being the fundamental reason why their community is impoverished.
"Black parents are the ones dooming their children and consequently the black community" and not racist government programs/agencies etc, say when Ferguson cops fine black people for things as petty as sagging pants, or drinking beer too close to an open grill...
Also it's really rich how he can criticise blacks for "government co-dependency" as if their weren't several government programs and laws that have shaped the US economy as we know it today and put whites at the top. The government are literally the reason blacks live in ghettos and whites in suburbs. That was handed to y'all. And he wants to talk about government dependancy. The cheek of it all |
I was not raised in the suburbs, I was raised in Detroit and worked my way out. There are tons of poor white people in the Detroit area, it is not just a black issue. Those same laws make it easy for those white people to have "government co-dependency" as well.
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Originally posted by Javan
That's not what I was even talking about. I was referring to his imagery of blacks as idle dreamers "wallowing in the unfairness of life" and waiting for politician to fix their problems, being the fundamental reason why their community is impoverished.
"Black parents are the ones dooming their children and consequently the black community" and not racist government programs/agencies etc, say when Ferguson cops fine black people for things as petty as sagging pants, or drinking beer too close to an open grill...
Also it's really rich how he can criticise blacks for "government co-dependency" as if their weren't several government programs and laws that have shaped the US economy as we know it today and put whites at the top. The government are literally the reason blacks live in ghettos and whites in suburbs. That was handed to y'all. And he wants to talk about government dependancy. The cheek of it all |
A lot of them do, though...nobody forces them to stay in poverty, and the only people stopping them form achieving upward mobility is themselves. Trust me...the government wants them to stay poor, and dependent on social programs, because they are reliable voters...not because they actually care.
One only need look at Oprah or Whoopi Goldberg or Rihanna as examples of self reliance: they got out of poverty, and achieved greatness in spite of "so called" rampant racism...
I've never said racism doesn't exist...but it's never going away. People will always judge other people for something...if not for skin color, then for being poor. If not for being poor, then being ugly. If not for being ugly, then for being fat. If not for being fat, then for being gay. You gotta get out n' achieve in spite of that.
Oh say, you see, this is the American Dream
Young boy, hustlin'
Tryna get the wheels in motion
But he can be anything at all
In America, America
I say, can't see
Just close your eyes and breathe
Breathe out, breathe in
American oxygen
Every breath I breathe
Chasin' this American Dream
We sweat for a nickel and a dime
Turn it into an empire
Breathe in, this feeling
American, American oxygen 
These lyrics are so true ^. You work hard, and hustle it you can be n' achieve anything in America
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FBI steps up interviews in Clinton email probe
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Even as Hillary Clinton tries to put questions about her private email server behind her, the FBI has stepped up inquiries into the security of the former Secretary of State's home-made email system, and how aides communicated over email, POLITICO has learned.
The FBI’s recent moves suggest that its inquiry could have evolved from the preliminary fact-finding stage that the agency launches when it receives a credible referral, according to former FBI and DOJ officials inteviewed by POLITICO.
“This sounds to me like it’s more than a preliminary inquiry; it sounds like a full-blown investigation,” said Tom Fuentes, former assistant director of the FBI. “When you have this amount of resources going into it …. I think it’s at the investigative level.”
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Originally posted by Chucko
FBI steps up interviews in Clinton email probe
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The GOP needs to move on from this...Hillary aced that 100 hour grilling on Capitol Hill. It's over, they need to move on.
They'd be better served to focus on picking the best candidate to go against Hillary in the general...and that's not Trump or Carson.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
A lot of them do, though...nobody forces them to stay in poverty, and the only people stopping them form achieving upward mobility is themselves. Trust me...the government wants them to stay poor, and dependent on social programs, because they are reliable voters...not because they actually care.
One only need look at Oprah or Whoopi Goldberg or Rihanna as examples of self reliance: they got out of poverty, and achieved greatness in spite of "so called" rampant racism...
I've never said racism doesn't exist...but it's never going away. People will always judge other people for something...if not for skin color, then for being poor. If not for being poor, then being ugly. If not for being ugly, then for being fat. If not for being fat, then for being gay. You gotta get out n' achieve in spite of that.
Oh say, you see, this is the American Dream
Young boy, hustlin'
Tryna get the wheels in motion
But he can be anything at all
In America, America
I say, can't see
Just close your eyes and breathe
Breathe out, breathe in
American oxygen
Every breath I breathe
Chasin' this American Dream
We sweat for a nickel and a dime
Turn it into an empire
Breathe in, this feeling
American, American oxygen
These lyrics are so true ^. You work hard, and hustle it you can be n' achieve anything in America |
This is nothing more than talking points the issue is way deeper than your making it. Esp when it comes to all Americans not just black people. Alot of it has to do with the loss of good paying low skilled jobs that has gone overseas also the death of unions its an issue everybody has to deal with.
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This isn't good. Hopefully this turns around for her come next November if she is the nominee
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
The GOP needs to move on from this...Hillary aced that 100 hour grilling on Capitol Hill. It's over, they need to move on.
They'd be better served to focus on picking the best candidate to go against Hillary in the general...and that's not Trump or Carson.
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This has nothing to do with that. The FBI is still going to do their job and Clapper's office has said that the emails claimed to be falsely classified as Top Secret is just a rumor. If that was the case it would be such a big deal, Clapper himself would have had a presser about it right away.
The GOP should leave Benghazi alone.
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Huckabee, Cruz, Jindal attending religious liberties conference pushing for death penalty for gay people: http://foxrad.io/1MUiKfH
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Originally posted by Chucko
I was not raised in the suburbs, I was raised in Detroit and worked my way out. There are tons of poor white people in the Detroit area, it is not just a black issue. Those same laws make it easy for those white people to have "government co-dependency" as well.
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Then why has RC(ATG) tried to turn this into a point on black culture?
Besides, as a white person you still had to face less obstacles as a African American, so your alleged success story doesn't quite refute much.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
One only need look at Oprah or Whoopi Goldberg or Rihanna as examples of self reliance: they got out of poverty, and achieved greatness in spite of "so called" rampant racism...
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
I've never said racism doesn't exist...but it's never going away. People will always judge other people for something...if not for skin color, then for being poor. If not for being poor, then being ugly. If not for being ugly, then for being fat. If not for being fat, then for being gay. You gotta get out n' achieve in spite of that.
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There's "judge"ment and then there is being denied loans, job opportunity and persecution from cops, non of which has been suffered on the basis of being "fat".
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
A lot of them do, though...nobody forces them to stay in poverty,
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Completely ostensible. The middle class isn't shrinking because Americans are lazy, it's shrinking because the economy is rigged. When some Americans are working upwards of 2 jobs and still struggle to make ends meet, and can't afford college tuition how do they crawl out of poverty? When black college graduates are just as likely to be employed as a white high school dropout, how do they crawl out of poverty?
Sure some my slip through the cracks and have a stroke of luck, but there isn't a seat at the table for everyone and anyone who has put in the hard work. The American Dream no longer exists. You need to widen up about the real world a bit, hun.
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