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					Originally posted by Pandora  Move your body, get me from across the floor 
Everybody's watching but I just want to give you more 
Don't care 'bout nothing 
I’m falling for your love in the worst way
 
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  |  Move closerI can feel your body rise
 The heat from you
 And I just have to fantasize
 We're all alone now
 And I don't care what people have to say
 
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					Originally posted by Reinvention  WaiT mrmikefern I just checked your instagram and all I have to say is...  |  oh how nice of you to say    thanks yew
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 No wonder Madonna's good songs flop ("Living For Love" and "Ghosttown") when ya'll can't even appreciate her iconic God Candy album tracks.    |  
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what is going on here?   |  Joan was not having it.  |  
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 So Day One of my attempt at a Hard Candy/Colin Relationship Rehabilitation was today.    
Honestly, something Alan said was a real turning point. He said something to the effect of the album's lyrics being kind of bleak at times, reflecting Madonna's state of mind as she was experiencing some deep personal issues, etc. And all of a sudden there was this big sad cloud hanging over the album. The sparseness that I'd always found grating, the melodies I'd always found flat, the lyrical content I'd often found trite and ridiculous - my mind has recast all of these as sonic testaments to - respectively - the dissolution of her marriage, her resulting personal melancholy, and the need to escape it through her music. It doesn't mean I love the album automatically, but songs like Heartbeat and Incredible gained instant gravitas and are far more interesting to me now.
 
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  So Day One of my attempt at a Hard Candy/Colin Relationship Rehabilitation was today.    
Honestly, something Alan said was a real turning point. He said something to the effect of the album's lyrics being kind of bleak at times, reflecting Madonna's state of mind as she was experiencing some deep personal issues, etc. And all of a sudden there was this big sad cloud hanging over the album. The sparseness that I'd always found grating, the melodies I'd always found flat, the lyrical content I'd often found trite and ridiculous - my mind has recast all of these as sonic testaments to - respectively - the dissolution of her marriage, her resulting personal melancholy, and the need to escape it through her music. It doesn't mean I love the album automatically, but songs like Heartbeat and Incredible gained instant gravitas and are far more interesting to me now.
 
We'll see where this journey takes me....
  |  "Sigmund Freud, analysis this."
 I truly do think there's a lot more to be said about Hard Candy than ever is. Songs like "Dance 2night" and "Beat Goes On" have some kind of escapist feelings from them, like Madonna wrote them to actively avoid getting too personal, and therefore revealing an interesting thought about what might have driven her at that time. The amount of people she worked with, "I tried to find a friend, more easily said." etc.
 
 "Heartbeat" is very much about her trying to find a connection.
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  So Day One of my attempt at a Hard Candy/Colin Relationship Rehabilitation was today.    
Honestly, something Alan said was a real turning point. He said something to the effect of the album's lyrics being kind of bleak at times, reflecting Madonna's state of mind as she was experiencing some deep personal issues, etc. And all of a sudden there was this big sad cloud hanging over the album. The sparseness that I'd always found grating, the melodies I'd always found flat, the lyrical content I'd often found trite and ridiculous - my mind has recast all of these as sonic testaments to - respectively - the dissolution of her marriage, her resulting personal melancholy, and the need to escape it through her music. It doesn't mean I love the album automatically, but songs like Heartbeat and Incredible gained instant gravitas and are far more interesting to me now.
 
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  So Day One of my attempt at a Hard Candy/Colin Relationship Rehabilitation was today.    
Honestly, something Alan said was a real turning point. He said something to the effect of the album's lyrics being kind of bleak at times, reflecting Madonna's state of mind as she was experiencing some deep personal issues, etc. And all of a sudden there was this big sad cloud hanging over the album. The sparseness that I'd always found grating, the melodies I'd always found flat, the lyrical content I'd often found trite and ridiculous - my mind has recast all of these as sonic testaments to - respectively - the dissolution of her marriage, her resulting personal melancholy, and the need to escape it through her music. It doesn't mean I love the album automatically, but songs like Heartbeat and Incredible gained instant gravitas and are far more interesting to me now.
 
We'll see where this journey takes me....
  |  I do think this might be reading more depth into the album than there actually is, but if that is what you need to do to enjoy it then fine (although you should figure out a way to enjoy debut first because that is what actual flawless music escapism through euphoria is...not trash like Heartbeat and Spanish Lesson). I hate on Hard Candy a lot, but some of it is okay and I don't think everything Madonna does needs to be genre redefining as much as I want it to be. Honestly I like it more than I let on, I just refuse to allow certain stans to paint it out to be her magnum opus just because they don't like older music. That being said I do wish she worked out her "musical escapism" with some better producers and less Timberlake.  |  
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					Originally posted by tylerlscwv  I do think this might be reading more depth into the album than there actually is, but if that is what you need to do to enjoy it then fine (although you should figure out a way to enjoy debut first because that is what actual flawless music escapism through euphoria is...not trash like Heartbeat and Spanish Lesson). I hate on Hard Candy a lot, but some of it is okay and I don't think everything Madonna does needs to be genre redefining as much as I want it to be. Honestly I like it more than I let on, I just refuse to allow certain stans to paint it out to be her magnum opus just because they don't like older music. That being said I do wish she worked out her "musical escapism" with some better producers and less Timberlake. |  I know very well it's not her magnum opus, but it's far better than the credit it gets, and that's more or less what I do - ensure it gets it's deserved acclaim.
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 Incredible is about going back to the time when there was magic in her marriage. 
Voices is about Madonna finding out she's been controlled by her flop marriage. 
Ring My Bell is about M dragging Guy. 
Heartbeat is about M's escape of her flop life.
 
Hard Grammy is a sad dance album.
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					Originally posted by Alongoria13  Incredible is about going back to the time when there was magic in her marriage. 
Voices is about Madonna finding out she's been controlled by her flop marriage. 
Ring My Bell is about M dragging Guy. 
Heartbeat is about M's escape of her flop life.
 
Hard Grammy is a sad dance album.
  |  I'm still not with you in this thought process entirely, but I can definitely see your perspective.
 
Poor Guy though. Sean got True Blue and Like A Prayer, and Guy got Hard Candy and MDNA   .  |  
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					Originally posted by tylerlscwv  I'm still not with you in this thought process entirely, but I can definitely see your perspective. 
Poor Guy though. Sean got True Blue and Like A Prayer, and Guy got Hard Candy and MDNA   . |  I wouldn't feel sorry for him.    |  
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  Don't you know it's Something O'Clock in Germany?   |  it's 7o'clock in the morning. 
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					Originally posted by Lover  it's 7o'clock in the morning. 
when will your flop country?   |  I'm so sick of living in the past.    |  
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  I'm so sick of living in the past.   |  u betta accept yo destiny
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					Originally posted by Humoresque  So Day One of my attempt at a Hard Candy/Colin Relationship Rehabilitation was today.    
Honestly, something Alan said was a real turning point. He said something to the effect of the album's lyrics being kind of bleak at times, reflecting Madonna's state of mind as she was experiencing some deep personal issues, etc. And all of a sudden there was this big sad cloud hanging over the album. The sparseness that I'd always found grating, the melodies I'd always found flat, the lyrical content I'd often found trite and ridiculous - my mind has recast all of these as sonic testaments to - respectively - the dissolution of her marriage, her resulting personal melancholy, and the need to escape it through her music. It doesn't mean I love the album automatically, but songs like Heartbeat and Incredible gained instant gravitas  and are far more interesting to me now.
 
We'll see where this journey takes me....
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					Originally posted by tylerlscwv  I do think this might be reading more depth into the album than there actually is, but if that is what you need to do to enjoy it then fine (although you should figure out a way to enjoy debut first because that is what actual flawless music escapism through euphoria is...not trash like Heartbeat and Spanish Lesson). I hate on Hard Candy a lot, but some of it is okay and I don't think everything Madonna does needs to be genre redefining as much as I want it to be. Honestly I like it more than I let on, I just refuse to allow certain stans to paint it out to be her magnum opus just because they don't like older music. That being said I do wish she worked out her "musical escapism" with some better producers and less Timberlake. |  Tyler bruh you're one of my base baes and your rate is mad kewl, but I'm afraid this relationship will go sour if you neglect to seek help for this pathological lying problem.    Debut couldn't possibly be pure musical escapism if every Madonna album after it is pureR thaN iT.
 
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