Originally posted by J a y It's between her and Katy. Katy writes more if not all of her material, but she doesn't dance. You know who is talented in all of these areas? Gaga. Beyoncé needs to put pen to paper more often to take the crown.

Originally posted by ceremonials I struggled with this tbh Britney is definitely a better dancer and performer But Rih is a better vocalist And they both write about the same amount of their music, not a lot.

Originally posted by ceremonials She's def a better songwriter than all of them by far but she's an average performer, average singer, and I love her but she literally dances like a Sim.

Originally posted by ultraviolento So slapping a vagina + average singing > being a great songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist? Oh ok

Originally posted by Goaty Out of curiosity, where are you from? In the US her real-life presence is nonexistent. And by that I mean nobody talks about her.

Originally posted by halcyonday Katy is one of the most talented artists, but okay.

Originally posted by J a y Stan delusion. Michael Jackson is an example of a pop artist who excels in all areas. Modern day, Beyoncé is oh-so-close to excelling in all areas too. Gaga needs to improve on dancing. Rih doesn't excel in any area. Half of these other girls manage 2 or 3 talents. Katy and Taylor don't dance, nor can they sing like Bey and Gaga. -2 points.

Originally posted by halcyonday You're scalping everyone today

Originally posted by ultraviolento So slapping a vagina + average singing > being a great songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist? Oh ok

Originally posted by halcyonday

Originally posted by ultraviolento Some of these threads I swear Rihanna is talented but not THAT talented.

Rihanna isn't that amazing of a singer, she is probably on the same level Katy is, maybe a bit higher, nor is she an amazing dancer even close to Beyoncé.

However, Rihanna's voice is super unique and recognisable and she has this swagger about her that is so natural and unmatched. Rihanna is a great artist, she doesn't exceed in any talent in particular but she is still successful in what she does. The way that she works with such a variety of songs in different genres effortlessly and make them her own is extremely commendable.

Threads made for the Rih haters to discuss and congregate are a thing now?
I seen multiple this week.

Originally posted by Ibeezinit Beyoncé literally does hard stomping choreography. Rihanna at Grammys 2012 we found love is just as good as anything of Beyoncé. Cut it sis.

Originally posted by Artemisia So Rihanna can sing. Um, ok. That makes her about as talented as an American Idol contestant kicked out in the Hollywood stage, right

You just described Taylor, who is actually not as good of a singer as Rihanna.

And please don't post album sales when quoting me.

The "Rihanna can't sing" criticism is so 2009 and tired at this point. There's plenty of recent live performances you can search of her where she vocally holds her own.