Discussion: Will Lorde suffer the same fate as Carly rae Jepsen? - Page 4

Dannyyyyyyyyy

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Originally posted by ultraviolento

These Carly stans are a mess. Lorde WILL be more successful and acclaimed than Carly, even though the latter is more commercial and is a P4K darling.

Lorde is more talented and makes better music, that's the end of.

Right?

First of all- Pitchfork ain't ****.

Second of all, they gave Lorde's album 0.1 lower than they gave Carly's album, and Lorde didn't rely on buzz producers to get that score. So who's the real P4K darling here

Sazare

Let it be known that the Pitchfork review of Emotion has been widely repudiated by music writers, including writers from Pitchfork itself, for being largely fallacious and sexist. They're obviously not infallible, but they do hold critical cachet. My point, as was quite clear, was that Carly inhabits the same field as the likes of Robyn and Sky Ferreira whereas Lorde is in roughly the same field as Meghan Trainor. They're in completely different lanes. This should be quite evident once critics' year-end lists start rolling out, where Emotion will have a much bigger presence than Pure Heroine did (not that that would be hard).

But then if you genuinely believe commissioning songs--only two of which she was even involved in creating--to be on a soundtrack is a sign of "talent" there's genuinely no point in trying to carry on a conversation here.

Wonderland

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Originally posted by Sazare

But then if you genuinely believe commissioning songs--only two of which she was even involved in creating--to be on a soundtrack is a sign of "talent" there's genuinely no point in trying to carry on a conversation here.

She co-wrote "All My Love" and "This Is Not a Game", though. Arguably two of the soundtracks high points

Evolution

Not that guy saying Carlie is "indie" where she tried to recreate CMM success with the most generic single of the year
Just because people didnt buy her music does not mean she is some indie act, she caters to pop audience.

And no, Lorde will do better even when her music is less acsesible.

Dannyyyyyyyyy

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Originally posted by Sazare

Let it be known that the Pitchfork review of Emotion has been widely repudiated by music writers, including writers from Pitchfork itself, for being largely fallacious and sexist. They're obviously not infallible, but they do hold critical cachet. My point, as was quite clear, was that Carly inhabits the same field as the likes of Robyn and Sky Ferreira whereas Lorde is in roughly the same field as Meghan Trainor. They're in completely different lanes. This should be quite evident once critics' year-end lists start rolling out, where Emotion will have a much bigger presence than Pure Heroine did (not that that would be hard).

But then if you genuinely believe commissioning songs--only two of which she was even involved in creating--to be on a soundtrack is a sign of "talent" there's genuinely no point in trying to carry on a conversation here.

I like that you skirt around the point I made about Carly using buzz producers. Anyone who uses Dev Hynes gets acclaimed on P4K- Tinashe, Sky, Solange. I have no doubt that if his songs with Britney made her album they'd be riding her dick too.. It's hardly an accomplishment

ultraviolento

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Originally posted by Sazare

Let it be known that the Pitchfork review of Emotion has been widely repudiated by music writers, including writers from Pitchfork itself, for being largely fallacious and sexist. They're obviously not infallible, but they do hold critical cachet. My point, as was quite clear, was that Carly inhabits the same field as the likes of Robyn and Sky Ferreira whereas Lorde is in roughly the same field as Meghan Trainor. They're in completely different lanes. This should be quite evident once critics' year-end lists start rolling out, where Emotion will have a much bigger presence than Pure Heroine did (not that that would be hard).

But then if you genuinely believe commissioning songs--only two of which she was even involved in creating--to be on a soundtrack is a sign of "talent" there's genuinely no point in trying to carry on a conversation here.

Absolutely not. People who like Carly often love girly dreamy groups such as LM, 5H. Also other "pure pop" girls like Robyn, Betty Who, Tegan and Sara, Foxes etc.

Now people who like Lorde tend to love tumblr oriented girls like Lana, Sky, Marina and Florence. It's pretty obvious actually, that Meghan shade wasn't cute and you know it's a LIE.

We'll have to wait until the YE lists, don't make assumptions just yet. Carly's buzz is pretty much over (I blame the early JP release) and people (including critics) already moved on from it. It was cute for like a month, now it sounds just like every other pop album out there. Nothing stands out.

And no, the sign of Lorde's talent is her songwriting, which is something the critics love the most about her. Critics like Carly's productions, and she takes no credit for that considering she isn't involved in the process.

Aden

No, I think she will be around for much longer. She is way more interesting that Carly and her first album was huge.

YR.

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Originally posted by Sazare

Let it be known that the Pitchfork review of Emotion has been widely repudiated by music writers, including writers from Pitchfork itself, for being largely fallacious and sexist. They're obviously not infallible, but they do hold critical cachet. My point, as was quite clear, was that Carly inhabits the same field as the likes of Robyn and Sky Ferreira whereas Lorde is in roughly the same field as Meghan Trainor. They're in completely different lanes. This should be quite evident once critics' year-end lists start rolling out, where Emotion will have a much bigger presence than Pure Heroine did (not that that would be hard).

But then if you genuinely believe commissioning songs--only two of which she was even involved in creating--to be on a soundtrack is a sign of "talent" there's genuinely no point in trying to carry on a conversation here.

AAAAAAAAAAH

ToxDuris

The GP know exactly who Lorde is, the other girl never had a name to begin with.

HotHeaven

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Originally posted by DevonRoars

First-- I didn't bring up UV's sales so you ain't hot ****
Second-- why would I compare a spoiled banana to an orange? think about it

Yes you did. Im not sure if you're blind or the ear infection from listening to Lorde is starting to affect your vision.

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Originally posted by DevonRoars

Pure Heroine outsold UV so I'm sure she'll do it again

katykater

Nah, she can bring something others haven't thought about. Hip hop love to name drop all kinds of expensive thing and she was sarcastic about because real life for the 99% isn't like that.

More important she has good taste in sounds, instrumentals,... and the better your HiFi is, the greater it sounds.