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Discussion: Should undocumented immigrants be allowed to attend uni?
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
It's not a direct a cause, but paying in state tuition for illegals or even allowing them to go to school there with any assistance takes money that could be going to help the education of low income citizens.
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Exactly. I got no federal aid. What does that say that a law-abiding permanent resident gets ****ed over but a law-breaker gets in for free?
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Illegals play oppressed to get into schools like Harvard for free. I actually worked, they and their families didn't make sacrifices.
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What a disgusting judgment 
And look at you fuming at the undocumented immigrant who most certainly worked their ass off getting into Harvard, and not the loser who got in with a sports scholarship, or the legacy applicant, or the child of rich parents who could afford SAT prep classes.
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
They get in for free by playing the victim. Texas even has an equivalent of FAFSA just for undocumented immigrants, and they get in-state.
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wow a couple sob stories the press picks up and one state means ALL dreamers get in for free 
just because no one buys your sad personal statement doesn't mean they don't deserve an education
it's not the "feel sorry for me" olympics, grow up and take responsibility for yourself
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Exactly. I got no federal aid. What does that say that a law-abiding permanent resident gets ****ed over but a law-breaker gets in for free?
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It shows the system is broken and fosters resentment between communities.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Is breaking the law not morally wrong?
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Originally posted by Artemisia
You tell me. Was the civil rights movement morally wrong? After all, they were breaking the LAW omg |
you know in all honesty this is just one of the droves of contradictions this country was founded on  why am I even trying to make any sense out of this foolishness
the US can do whatever the **** it wants, as it's always done for centuries. and it seems that they don't mind the massive amount of immigrants coming in. i can't care anymore about this issue after realising that
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Member Since: 3/18/2012
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Hell no. They take up the spot of someone who worked their ass off to get in college. Completely ****ing ridiculous
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Artemisia
What a disgusting judgment
And look at you fuming at the undocumented immigrant who most certainly worked their ass off getting into Harvard, and not the loser who got in with a sports scholarship, or the legacy applicant, or the child of rich parents who could afford SAT prep classes. |
Being a hard worker means nothing.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Illegals play oppressed to get into schools like Harvard for free. I actually worked, they and their families didn't make sacrifices.
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Perhaps they were truly oppressed? Have you met one personally? You seem to be taking a similar approach to those dismissing Affirmative Action.
Also the universities deemed that they worked just as hard.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
It's not a direct a cause, but paying in state tuition for illegals or even allowing them to go to school there with any assistance takes money that could be going to help the education of low income citizens.
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They receive minimal assistance in most states. And in the ones where they do receive assistance, the government sees it, like Artemisia said, as an investment.
Also, low income students have access to lots of financial aid, even more so if they made an effort in high school and got good grades.
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Okay so you agree with me. Cool.
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bruh do you not read 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by XIAN
it's not the "feel sorry for me" olympics, grow up and take responsibility for yourself
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Illegals don't take responsibility for their actions at all whatsoever. They just whine and complain until someone gives them amnesty.
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Member Since: 12/6/2011
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Originally posted by Hey Gurl Hey
Hell no. They take up the spot of someone who worked their ass off to get in college. Completely ****ing ridiculous
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They worked equally hard to get into college.
If that's your only argument, then try again.
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Member Since: 1/16/2011
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People actually think they shouldn't be deported asap? 
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Member Since: 11/20/2011
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The reason why this topic is touchy isn't because people are averse to students from different countries attending US universities. It's touchy because unlike K-12, college is not free for everyone. So, the idea of non-US citizens getting in-state tuition to attend public universities, instead of paying the international student price is going to strike a nerve. Like, what country can I, as an American go to, live there for xyz years, and then expect subsidized tuition, even though I'm not a citizen?
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by Artemisia
What a disgusting judgment
And look at you fuming at the undocumented immigrant who most certainly worked their ass off getting into Harvard, and not the loser who got in with a sports scholarship, or the legacy applicant, or the child of rich parents who could afford SAT prep classes. |
Exactly.
I feel a sense of entitlement from the OP of the thread.
When I applied to universities I got accepted to one of the best 100 in the country but they offered me little financial aid so I could not go there. I just did not meet the standards to get more financial aid. I opted for another school where I received more support, and it's just great. Education is a wonderful thing--not sure where the OP is from, but I assume American universities are already an improvement from the ones he could afford in his home country.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Zoraluv
bruh do you not read |
Lol about three are of you in this thread haven't had brought a logical argument to the table for pages.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Artemisia
What a disgusting judgment
And look at you fuming at the undocumented immigrant who most certainly worked their ass off getting into Harvard, and not the loser who got in with a sports scholarship, or the legacy applicant, or the child of rich parents who could afford SAT prep classes. |
They didn't make sacrifices. They avoided the money they needed to pay and dodged all the papers they needed to file.
And, trust me, I'm against sport scholarships and legacy applications and I'm for reforms that would even the playing fields for poor students. I am a poor student that went to a rich high school. I know all the benefits I didn't get.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by uhoh-ohno
The reason why this topic is touchy isn't because people are averse to students from different countries attending US universities. It's touchy because unlike K-12, college is not free for everyone. So, the idea of non-US citizens getting in-state tuition to attend public universities, instead of paying the international student price is going to strike a nerve. Like, what country can I, as an American go to, live there for xyz years, and then expect subsidized tuition, even though I'm not a citizen?
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College tuition is nonexistent or has a very small price in a number of Western European countries.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Exactly.
I feel a sense of entitlement from the OP of the thread.
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And illegal immigrants think they are entailed to all the rights of a citizen by committing a crime to get here, hiding out for a few years and buying some groceries on occasion. Who is really the entitled one?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Perhaps they were truly oppressed? Have you met one personally? You seem to be taking a similar approach to those dismissing Affirmative Action.
Also the universities deemed that they worked just as hard.
They receive minimal assistance in most states. And in the ones where they do receive assistance, the government sees it, like Artemisia said, as an investment.
Also, low income students have access to lots of financial aid, even more so if they made an effort in high school and got good grades.
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Affirmative action is for hard-working, law-abiding residents meant to level the playing field for disadvantaged students. It's not comparable.
Also, it's not true that federal aid is reasonably given out.
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