^actually Vanessa along with the movie receieved top reviews from The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The BFCA, etc. As long as she does a variety of different roles and works on not getting typecast, she will be fine.
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Originally posted by Afterglow
Your only proving my point, there was 'NO INTEREST' in the film by the general public. Promotion was very standard for a film of it's stature, the only thing the film was lacking was actress/actor that can carry a film by name. In addition to those you mentioned, trailers ran on Cartoon Network, E!, Fox, The-N, CW, and plenty more. Standard. Trailers before films at theaters are planned by the studio before release, there was no chance you'd see it attached to any film so close to release. And also, if foreign countries see it as a HSM release, that as well should have made more money.
Why would they waste promotional time and money for a Bowie cameo? Think marketing strategy, think like a business person. And what's NOT great about being the teen queen? You get perks no others get, you get a solidified fanbase so when you leave the demographic, you still do well. You get almost life long name recognition, and the like. And if Vanessa's young fans (which she does have) get on her nerves, that sounds like somebody that really shouldn't be in the industry if she can say something so ignorant.
Hilary is doing just great at the moment, her point in doing these films is for her characters. Have you realized she's gotten great reviews in every film thus far? THAT is her reasoning for doing these films, not for an overall movie, but for herself. In the long run, that will pay off, it's actually incredibly smart on her behalf. Hilary was smart, she kept her young fanbase for a good 8 years, not alienating them asap like you say Vanessa want's to do, because that is the smart way to run your career, keeping with your teen demographic and slowly grow at the right time.
I can hype "B&C" just as much as the few Vanessa fans hype "Sucker Punch", and "Beastly" (which is a tweeny movie). None of Hilary's films have gone straight to DVD, "Bonnie & Clyde" which is a highly coveted role, will certainly have a theatrical release as will all of Hilary's films as they have been. Of course Hilary get's roles in part because of her big name, but critics don't lie.  |
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I actually have a Bachelor's in
Marketing and Management.
And you are just proving my point. Summit's job as distributor was to develop interest in this movie and they FAILED.
One of the most important parts of marketing is branding. Basically knowing what product you actually have and presenting it to the public. Branding is very important because once a first impression sets in, it is very hard to change.
Branding is another reason that studios often do test screenings of movies before they send out trailers/tv spots and do major advertising. This movie did much better test screening wise with teens and adults.
The director, screenwriter, and the producers knew who the movie was for. They even made a different trailer featuring the whole cast and taking advantage of the David Bowie cameo but Summit refused to air it because they wanted to be lazy and sell it too kids, kids that would be lost when actually watching the movie.
You can spend 20 million dollars of advertising on a movie, but if you are not targeting the right demographic then it is a waste of money. Summit alienated the main demographic for this movie by the cheesy name, poster, etc. They made it look like a kids movie when it is not a kids movie. Kids are smart and didn't want to see some rip off of HSM or Camp Rock when they can see those types of movies at home for free. Movies prices are going up and audiences are being picky about the types of movies they want to see.
All Summit had to do was present the movie for what it was and instead they made it look like a piece of $hit. While the reviews were wonderful for this movie, part of me wonders what the reviews would have been like if Summit would have actually sold this movie for what it was.
As far as Vanessa's career goes...
there is nothing wrong with her saying that some of her younger fans get on her nerves...that doesn't mean that she hates them, but little kids can get a bit overwhelming sometimes. Plus I never said that Vanessa wants to "alienate" her fanbase. I said she doesn't want to cater to them and that she doesn't want to get stuck in the "teen movie black whole" which most young actors fail to escape.
Plus, I didn't know you had seen Beastly yet?
The director of Beastly also directed Pheobe in Wonderland, which received amazing reviews and is far from kiddy. He did the screenplay for Pheobe and he also did the screenplay for Beastly, so I am very confident that he is not making Beastly a "tween film." I just hope he keeps the part about Linda's dad trying to beat her up because she threw out cocaine. And not to be mean, but I doubt that Neil Patrick Harris, and Mary Kate Olsen (who doesn't even need to act because of her fashion empire and is very picky about choosing her roles) would pick some lame "tween film".
You are also right about slowing growing as an actor/actress and not completely blowing off your teen demographic...
Vanessa is doing a good job...Bandslam to Beastly to Sucker Punch.
Hilary unforunately moved at a snail's pace in regards to her movie choices and is now paying for it.
As far as my direct to dvd comment...
"What Goes Up" had like 7 screenings before it came out on DVD. And most of the screenings took place like 2 weeks before the movie came out on DVD.
And the only people that seem to be hyping Bonnie and Clyde are Hilary fans. While it has potential, it will most likely have a limited release before going to DVD. When most outside people heard about this role, most people were not excited. The version with Faye and Warren Beatty is a classic and was nominated for several oscars. I don't see this version being as great.
PS:
musicb_/, I hope you continue enjoying this thread.
I'm having fun myself.
