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Poll: Should trans-teen be able to use girl's lockerroom?
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View Poll Results: I think that
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Yes, she identifies as a girl
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No, she still has a penis and should use the uni-sex bathroom
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36.54% |
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by KingKunta
So you are saying a man can't simply tell someone that he identifies as transgender, even when he really doesn't, put on high heels, stockings, and a wig or whatever he needs to to resemble a woman, legally go into the girl's bathroom and harm a woman or a little girl? Don't be so naive.
And like I said to the other poster what makes you think this won't happen in the future, just because you haven't heard about it. Using the "it hasn't happened so far" argument isn't going to make me or any other cis-woman feel any safer.
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What's your point tho? Men can already enter a female bathroom with a gun, and kidnap and rape whomever he wanted.
Men can also do that in the street, in the office, and even in your own house. So don't use the "I don't feel safe" excuse because, technically, you're not safe anywhere darling.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
Boys pretending to be transgender and hurting women is a redundant argument. Nobody has the time.
We should be discussing why we are allowing impressionable confused children to transition in the 1st place. That is more concerning.
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LOL at this. All anyone has to do is go the school the next day and decide they are transgender and use the bathroom. No one is born that way, you come to the realization, usually around that age. This notion it takes a lifetime of faking is bogus.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by KingKunta
So you are saying a man can't simply tell someone that he identifies as transgender, even when he really doesn't, put on high heels, stockings, and a wig or whatever he needs to to resemble a woman, legally go into the girl's bathroom and harm a woman or a little girl? Don't be so naive.
And like I said to the other poster what makes you think this won't happen in the future, just because you haven't heard about it. Using the "it hasn't happened so far" argument isn't going to make me or any other cis-woman feel any safer.
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also, being trans isn't always about passing to look conventionally feminine
womanhood is not confined to lipstick and heels
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Petals
But in what world does the bathroom this girl use affect any of these girls lives? boo  |
In this current world. She wants to shower in an open space with biological girls who have expressed their discomfort with an individual who has a penis. You cannot deny the feelings of a majority of girls who have no choice but to use those facilities since it is a school they are required to be in. They can't just leave and go somewhere else.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
It was with regard to an open spaced locker room after Gym class.
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Oh really? Hmm that's trickier then.
In regards to the poll and her previously using a unisex bathroom I assumed it was just about using the bathroom, rather than a locker room/shower setting, since unisex locker rooms and showers aren't a thing in schools.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Tymps.
So if a transgender person never gets the surgery and lives their whole life as, let's say, a male with a vagina on the T, at 60 years old is he still a female?
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Of course.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Petals
What's your point tho? Men can already enter a female bathroom with a gun, and kidnap and rape whomever he wanted.
Men can also do that in the street, in the office, and even in your own house. So don't use the "I don't feel safe" excuse because, technically, you're not safe anywhere darling.
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lol @ the cis people screaming about feeling unsafe
when trans people are the ones who are unjustly murdered all the time because of their gender identity
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Petals
What's your point tho? Men can already enter a female bathroom with a gun, and kidnap and rape whomever he wanted.
Men can also do that in the street, in the office, and even in your own house. So don't use the "I don't feel safe" excuse because, technically, you're not safe anywhere darling.
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Stupid argument.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
All you need to be transgender is a wear female clothes. You don't have to be on hormones or anything like that, and most schools are not going to check for that.
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not true
legally, to be considered transgender, you need doctor's approval. and i'm not buying that most schools won't check when most schools ask for doctor's notes for simple things like absences and skipping gym
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Originally posted by B'Day
Hire security and protection then
No, it's not the way it is.
That's the way it is to ignorant people.
You don't get to decide someone's gender. You don't speak for all the transgenders in the world. You're not that important. |
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Ok that is an (expensive) idea x
but this girl has access to a gender neutral bathroom & is refusing to use it, so how effective are they anyway? What's the point of making gender neutral bathrooms if (trans) people refuse to use them?
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Originally posted by Chax
In this current world. She wants to shower in an open space with biological girls who have expressed their discomfort with an individual who has a penis. You cannot deny the feelings of a majority of girls who have no choice but to use those facilities since it is a school they are required to be in. They can't just leave and go somewhere else.
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But Lila is a woman too so you're agreeing with me?  She can't just leave and go somewhere else.
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Originally posted by Latch
lol @ the cis people screaming about feeling unsafe
when trans people are the ones who are unjustly murdered all the time because of their gender identity
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The safety of everyone matters.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
LOL at this. All anyone has to do is go the school the next day and decide they are transgender and use the bathroom. No one is born that way, you come to the realization, usually around that age. This notion it takes a lifetime of faking is bogus.
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Pretty sure you need a doctors note at the very least.
American schools are reluctant as it is recognise and accommodate legitimate trans student. As if they'd let Billy who has been macho male throughout 5 grades enter a girls bathroom on a whim.
It doesn't take a lifetime but it will take commitment.
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Originally posted by Javan
hmm. I thought trangenderism was all about choice? The discrepancies are endless.
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it's not necessarily a matter of "choosing," a way to be
I wouldn't argue that trans people feel as if they have a choice to be trans
they're just being who they are
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by hot mess
not true
legally, to be considered transgender, you need doctor's approval. and i'm not buying that most schools won't check when most schools ask for doctor's notes for simple things like absences and skipping gym
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Most schools do not check for that. Why would they, unless someone brought a situation like this up? It's not required at enrollment to inform the school of your gender identity. Whether you are legally transgender or not is irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
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What's this?
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
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now I feel bad.
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Originally posted by Petals
But Lila is a woman too so you're agreeing with me? She can't just leave and go somewhere else. |
Lila can use a uni-sex bathroom because she still has a penis and still produces a large amount of testosterone. 
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