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Celeb News: CL: "Asian girls love being basic"
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I live in Asia and i don't even know who she is. Asia is more than just East Asia (Japan, China, South Korea). But if she really wants to make it big, i wish all the best for her.
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She has good intentions, but the issue is quite complicated and her statement will probably do her more harm than good.
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Charming.
The point I think taken from this interview is that people have a warped sense of what makes a girl be a girl and she wants to challenge that idea because eastern society doesn't have a lady gaga or miley Cyrus.
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Koda Kumi, Ayumi Hamasaki, Namie Amuro, BoA, HyunA, and Lee Hyori all say hello. All strong female artists that have had more impact in Japan and/or South Korea than CL has had in South Korea.
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Quem é esta perua na fila do pão?
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Because it's the truth? Asian women in general are taught to be respectful and obedient, there's hardly any role models of strong powerful Asian women in eastern society because they all want to be loved and saccharine sweet; this allows patriarchal dominance that hinders overall productivity because many Asian women fail to fulfil their potential because they're taught to be docile.
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Girl Bye with your ignorance.
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whities and blackies in here thinking they are so progressive.
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No shade but she's basic too..
She's just an asian girl with a Black American persona.
Another Iggy.
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Originally posted by Suilen
She has good intentions, but the issue is quite complicated and her statement will probably do her more harm than good.
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Originally posted by Saeju
Koda Kumi, Ayumi Hamasaki, Namie Amuro, BoA, HyunA, and Lee Hyori all say hello. All strong female artists that have had more impact in Japan and/or South Korea than CL has had in South Korea.
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Urgh you miss the point, all those artists despite being 'strong' female artists, conform to cultural social standards (but like someone else here has pointed out this is an issue everywhere), they're cute to look at and have princess like mannerism. I would like to see a female artist like Miley in Asia so kids know that even idols can be unconventional and look different to challenge the status quo, I like the direction CL is heading because she's a little more tomboyish and out there - baby steps.
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Girl Bye with your ignorance.
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I'm eastern asian who happens to live in the UK sunshine. I've visited Asia, I've seen the effects of patriarchy firsthand in my family, have you?
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Originally posted by Inverted
Why does she always talk about Asia as if it only consists of South Korea and/or East Asia? The vast majority of Asians have no idea who she is. 
No, it's a pan-Asian trait. Shy, innocent, timid, quiet and obedient are valued traits on women and even men too. |
that happens a lot. When people think of Asians they only refer to East Asian ones. There's just as many Asians in the South-East but they're ignored.
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"Girls in Asia are very obedient, shy, timid, quiet"
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Her bandmates fit that mold.
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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice
No shade but she's basic too..
She's just an asian girl with a Black American persona.
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lol I can't
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But it's the truth though? She may not have worded it in the best way, but what she said about the way females are expected to act in many Asian cultures is 100% correct.  She's not blaming the women for being submissive, she's just pointing it out. In fact, some of you guys are doing more harm than good by writing her comments off as pretentious and pretending that women aren't treated that way. 
If any celeb right now is qualified to speak on how Asian women are treated in Asian culture, it would be an Asian woman like CL tbh.
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Originally posted by *.Digambar.*
whities and blackies in here thinking they are so progressive.
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Well, Nepalis definitely aren't the poster child of progressive behavior in comparison.
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Originally posted by kyogul
that happens a lot. When people think of Asians they only refer to East Asian ones. There's just as many Asians in the South-East but they're ignored.
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That's a North American thing and she's pandering to that misconception. I guess it's because saying she's an Asian superstar sounds better than saying she's a South Korean superstar. The latter sounds less impressive.
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Urgh you miss the point, all those artists despite being 'strong' female artists, conform to cultural social standards (but like someone else here has pointed out this is an issue everywhere), they're cute to look at and have princess like mannerism. I would like to see a female artist like Miley in Asia so kids know that even idols can be unconventional and look different to challenge the status quo, I like the direction CL is heading because she's a little more tomboyish and out there - baby steps.
I'm eastern asian who happens to live in the UK sunshine. I've visited Asia, I've seen the effects of patriarchal firsthand in my family, have you?
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Clearly you haven't visited enough? Not firsthand experience with your family.  You really need to visit more families then and yes, I practically have lived all my life in asia, haven't you? 
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
But it's the truth though? She may not have worded it in the best way, but what she said about the way females are expected to act in most Asian cultures is 100% correct. She's not blaming the women for being submissive, she's just pointing it out. In fact, some of you guys are doing more harm than good by writing her comments off as pretentious and pretending that women aren't treated that way, when it is a reality of Asian culture.
If any celeb right now is qualified to speak on how Asian women are treated in Asian culture, it would be CL tbh. |
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Originally posted by Saeju
Koda Kumi, Ayumi Hamasaki, Namie Amuro, BoA, HyunA, and Lee Hyori all say hello. All strong female artists that have had more impact in Japan and/or South Korea than CL has had in South Korea.
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Lol @ hyuna
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Not exactly the best choice of words but I see her point. Sadly basic is kinda an insult to a lot of people
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