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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Terylee
If a German politician would do what Trump did he would be thrown out of office and called a Nazi by the press.
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Trump's not a politician and the reporter was out of line. If this was at the press area of the white house and this man did this to Obama there would be no outrage. He was rude, disrespectful to the other journalists and his claims of open borders are asinine. Trump did nothing wrong end of discussion.
Also the reach at everyone claiming Trump saying "go back to Univision" THE PLACE WHERE HE WORKED had racial undertones it ludicrous. How can you infer what his intentions are. You can't so stop.
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I finally got around to watching the Trump presser.
What gives Jorge, or any reporter for that matter, the right to stand up and start editorializing and expect to not be asked to sit down and eventually be removed. At that point in time Jorge was not a reporter he was an activist. He wasn't asking questions he was making his own political statement. He became a heckler.
I was ready to rip Trump but I can't, even when he let him back in and allowed Jorge to ask 3 questions he took him down like he has been doing these pressers for years.
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I cannot stand Trump, but not because he kicked out Jorge (was deserved).
I can't stand him because he is further diving America into whites vs everyone else. He is further alienating the Latino community and painting us all as moochers and criminals.
It hurts for me to be labeled as an "anchor baby" when I'm graduating in less than a year from college, while my parents pay their taxes as everyone should and for everything we have worked for the be flushed down the drain just like that. I have grown up in an upper middle class suburb (18 years) and have NEVER in my life felt racially discriminated until recently. All thanks to Trump.
America does not need a president who does not recognize the melting pot that this beautiful country is.
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Originally posted by MP2K
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DISGUSTING. ugh another trump supporter of course.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Inject Me.
I cannot stand Trump, but not because he kicked out Jorge (was deserved).
I can't stand him because he is further diving America into whites vs everyone else. He is further alienating the Latino community and painting us all as moochers and criminals.
It hurts for me to be labeled as an "anchor baby" when I'm graduating in less than a year from college, while my parents pay their taxes as everyone should and for everything we have worked for the be flushed down the drain just like that. I have grown up in an upper middle class suburb (18 years) and have NEVER in my life felt racially discriminated until recently. All thanks to Trump.
America does not need a president who does not recognize the melting pot that this beautiful country is.
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Trump is not painting "you personally" as a moocher or criminal...just the illegal ones that take from the government, steal, and commit crimes.
Trump doesn't have the decorum to be president, that's why I'm voting for Carly Fiorina. She is classy, poised, and eloquent...but can cut a bitch when it is required.
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How are his numbers keep going up? I can't believe in a sophisticated country like the US there are still people who think that way. Latinos who are there work their asses as much as any other American. The reporter was out of line, have to admit that, Trump did well this time but I cannot believe some people are rooting for this closed minded old man.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Espresso
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Trump's long term prospects look good as well, if the primary ends up with him against an establishment candidate like Jeb Bush
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Trump at 28% should get Carson's 12%, Cruz's, 7%, Fiorina's 5%, Huckabee's 3%, and Santorum's 1%
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Bush at 7% should get Rubio's 7%, Walkers 6%, Kasich's 5%, Christie's 4%, Paul's 2%, and Perry's 1%.
That already puts Trump at 56% v Bush 32%...barring no embarrassing revelation, or too heinous gaffe about/by Trump. The GOP nomination right now really is Trump's to lose.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Trump's long term prospects look good as well, if the primary ends up with him against an establishment candidate like Jeb Bush
Hypothetically:
Trump at 28% should get Carson's 12%, Cruz's, 7%, Fiorina's 5%, Huckabee's 3%, and Santorum's 1%
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Bush at 7% should get Rubio's 7%, Walkers 6%, Kasich's 5%, Christie's 4%, Paul's 2%, and Perry's 1%.
That already puts Trump at 56% v Bush 32%...barring no embarrassing revelation, or too heinous gaffe about/by Trump. The GOP nomination right now really is Trump's to lose.
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It's not quite as simple as that, I will try to find time to break down the logic a bit further sometime today but it has a lot to do with favorable/trustworthiness and second and third choice candidates. I don't have the breakdowns in front of me but Trump is not automatically the beneficiary of Carsons 12% when he is way in the negative in favorable/trustworthiness and Carly is like 78/5 for example.
Same can be said for Rubio who has extremely high favorable to unfavorable polling. When people drop out they are going to start looking at these candidates.
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Originally posted by Chucko
It's not quite as simple as that, I will try to find time to break down the logic a bit further sometime today but it has a lot to do with favorable/trustworthiness and second and third choice candidates. I don't have the breakdowns in front of me but Trump is not automatically the beneficiary of Carsons 12% when he is way in the negative in favorable/trustworthiness and Carly is like 78/5 for example.
Same can be said for Rubio who has extremely high favorable to unfavorable polling. When people drop out they are going to start looking at these candidates.
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Lets be honest Rubio simply hasnt been challenged by anyone yet. This is the same guy who denounced the immigration plan he came up with.
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
How are his numbers keep going up? I can't believe in a sophisticated country like the US there are still people who think that way. Latinos who are there work their asses as much as any other American. The reporter was out of line, have to admit that, Trump did well this time but I cannot believe some people are rooting for this closed minded old man.
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This country's a sh*t show.
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Originally posted by Adonis
Lets be honest Rubio simply hasnt been challenged by anyone yet. This is the same guy who denounced the immigration plan he came up with.
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As true as that my be, he has a huge favorable rating and until someone knocks him down he will be one of the top 4-5. He can adjust his message, everyone does, and he can explain himself. It's a matter of how will people accept him when he is confronted with these two issues; Immigration and Abortion. If he does well he will be okay, if not he will be done.
Typically after Labor Day people start looking more closely at the candidates and want more policy then fluff.
Off topic:
A Democrat friend of mine just told me yesterday he isn't going to vote for Hillary, last straw was her comparing republicans to terrorists. His reasoning being, if she gets elected she will be so toxic the Congress won't deal with her. He said Biden or he is probably going to not vote. I think if Biden were to win it all he would have no problem trying to work with Congress but they would not allow him to become an extension of the Obama administration.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by Inject Me.
I cannot stand Trump, but not because he kicked out Jorge (was deserved).
I can't stand him because he is further diving America into whites vs everyone else. He is further alienating the Latino community and painting us all as moochers and criminals.
It hurts for me to be labeled as an "anchor baby" when I'm graduating in less than a year from college, while my parents pay their taxes as everyone should and for everything we have worked for the be flushed down the drain just like that. I have grown up in an upper middle class suburb (18 years) and have NEVER in my life felt racially discriminated until recently. All thanks to Trump.
America does not need a president who does not recognize the melting pot that this beautiful country is.
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Trump does not divide, he unites. That's the problem with this country right now, you can't bring up any issue without someone getting offended.
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Originally posted by alexanderao
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**** nooooo! Come on, Bernie
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Originally posted by hairofglory
Trump does not divide, he unites. That's the problem with this country right now, you can't bring up any issue without someone getting offended.
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You're not the one experiencing racism for the first time in their life, why are you talking? He's uniting all the white republicans together, yes. That's not all that America is.
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Trump is not painting "you personally" as a moocher or criminal...just the illegal ones that take from the government, steal, and commit crimes.
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Yes, but the people tend to generalize all Latinos as "Mexican" and illegal on top of that. Trump is just making it worse. When you're in the streets you can't tell who is and isn't illegal by looking at them.
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Originally posted by Chucko
Off topic:
A Democrat friend of mine just told me yesterday he isn't going to vote for Hillary, last straw was her comparing republicans to terrorists. His reasoning being, if she gets elected she will be so toxic the Congress won't deal with her. He said Biden or he is probably going to not vote. I think if Biden were to win it all he would have no problem trying to work with Congress but they would not allow him to become an extension of the Obama administration.
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The GOP Congress that told Obama they won't compromise or work with him and that they were determined to make him a one-term president will not work with any Democratic president, period.
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Originally posted by Revolution
The GOP Congress that told Obama they won't compromise or work with him and that they were determined to make him a one-term president will not work with any Democratic president, period.
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They just passed a trade bill with Obama with almost no democrats supporting it so there goes your theory.
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The headlines about Trump's hair being real the endless roadshow
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by hairofglory
Trump does not divide, he unites. That's the problem with this country right now, you can't bring up any issue without someone getting offended.
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Unites who sweetie? If anything he's just giving people reasons to feed into the polarization of the two parties.
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