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Originally posted by CakeLike
The way keshas albums were released were a direct copy of Gaga, the way they were marketed also. Gaga went with the weird avante garde futuristic fashions wheras with kesha she went with the whole drunk party girl. There are just some things you cant deny, the proof is there

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Screaming @ 'Cannibal' being dark.
We R Who We R, Blow, Crazy Beautiful Life and Grow A Pear are all about as fun/party as you can get. Sleazy is not dark. Cannibal is faux dark, it's just an electropop fetish anthem. C U Next Tuesday is lighthearted. The Harold Song is the only "dark" song on the EP.
But stay thinking that Ke$ha copied Gaga her career.  Kesha never went "weird", she was only ever "cool" and "trashy".
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It's amazing how Prisoner is better than any Honeymoon song so far, isn't it?

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I wouldn't know. 
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It's amazing how Bionic is better than any Lady Gaga album, isn't it?
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No, it's you having tragic taste once again
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Tik Tok is pretty thematically reminiscent to Lady Gaga circa Just Dance, but then it's also thematically similar to a ****ton of other songs from that period. Gaga didn't invent songs about hedonistic partying. Likewise, Kesha's dress and fashion sense were similarly all over the place and ridiculous like Gaga's but I think pretty much everyone was doing that back in 2009 and 2010. Gags could be credited with starting that trend, but I wouldn't go so far as to say Kesha was copying straight from her.
The two are quite their own artists.
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Originally posted by alkralkra
No, it's you having tragic taste once again
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The Fame Monster is an EP by the way, not an album, so my statement still stands.
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I miss new Godoncé. I need more Die With You its vocals, deffo her greatest vocal performance
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No matter lightning or thunder
Buckets of rainwater
You can't flood this town
In a world unknown
You've got to hold your own
You can't stop me, you're never ever gonna stop me now
Fetus Gaga wrote such amazing lyrics.  I hope she does that for LG5.
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Originally posted by conatus
It's amazing how Bionic is better than any Lady Gaga album, isn't it?
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HALF of Gaga's albums. Glam alone easily destroys The Filler and Chartdrop.

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It's amazing how Bionic is better than any Lady Gaga album, isn't it?
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This is true
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Actually, not sure whether Bionic > BTW, but then Bionic doesn't have a song as offensively bad as Scheiße, The Queen, or Bad Kids. Hmmm.
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None of Xtincta albums have decent replay value sans B2B.
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Originally posted by Sazare
Tik Tok is pretty thematically reminiscent to Lady Gaga circa Just Dance, but then it's also thematically similar to a ****ton of other songs from that period. Gaga didn't invent songs about hedonistic partying. Likewise, Kesha's dress and fashion sense were similarly all over the place and ridiculous like Gaga's but I think pretty much everyone was doing that back in 2009 and 2010. Gags could be credited with starting that trend, but I wouldn't go so far as to say Kesha was copying straight from her.
The two are quite their own artists.
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Yep. The idea of a party song was NOT exclusive to Gaga. See "Don't Stop The Music" by Rihanna released in late 2007, among many others. But TiK ToK was more than just a song about partying, it was the style, the electropop production, the sing-talky verses, the excessive use of autotune. All of those elements were the key factors in its success, not the fact that it was a party song like Just Dance happened to be. 
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Originally posted by Sam
Screaming @ 'Cannibal' being dark.
We R Who We R, Blow, Crazy Beautiful Life and Grow A Pear are all about as fun/party as you can get. Sleazy is not dark. Cannibal is faux dark, it's just an electropop fetish anthem. C U Next Tuesday is lighthearted. The Harold Song is the only "dark" song on the EP.
But stay thinking that Ke$ha copied Gaga her career.  Kesha never went "weird", she was only ever "cool" and "trashy".
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You can argue all you want, the fact is the only reason Kesha went from animal>cannibal was to copy gagas strategy of The Fame>The Fame Monster. They did it with Born this way as well with warrior.

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Originally posted by Sam
Yep. The idea of a party song was NOT exclusive to Gaga. See "Don't Stop The Music" by Rihanna released in late 2007, among many others. But TiK ToK was more than just a song about partying, it was the style, the electropop production, the sing-talky verses, the excessive use of autotune. All of those elements were the key factors in its success, not the fact that it was a party song like Just Dance happened to be. 
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Gaga obviously inspired DSTM. Her impact transcends time and space.
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Actually, not sure whether Bionic > BTW, but then Bionic doesn't have a song as offensively bad as Scheiße, The Queen, or Bad Kids. Hmmm.
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Not me loving two of these songs tho.
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Not me loving two of these songs tho.
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That says it all. (I joke, I joke.)
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Gaga may, on occasion, draw heavily from the music and iconography of her heroes, but her influence on her own peers is even more obvious: Miley Cyrus and Christina Aguilera practically destroyed their careers trying to copy her; Rihanna and Katy Perry keep getting weirded (see Katy's "E.T." video); Ke$ha is allowed to be famous.
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Rolling Stone claims Gaga practically invented Ke$ha. Would they lie? 
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Originally posted by CakeLike
You can argue all you want, the fact is the only reason Kesha went from animal>cannibal was to copy gagas strategy of The Fame>The Fame Monster. They did it with Born this way as well with warrior.

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Sure, let's just ignore every other reissue in history before that. That sounds cool.
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Gaga obviously inspired DSTM. Her impact transcends time and space.
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asdasdsia CONNOR 
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Anyone who says Scheiße is nothing short of pop perfection should just go donate their ears to someone more deserving

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Beauty Behind The Madness = Album Of The Year

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