Tell me if I'm wrong. Did I say anything that wasn't factual? Let me know.
You gave a generalization on a misinformed view of a religion that demeans others' religious views, especially those views of black Christians. I won't argue that religion has been used to promote racism, but that doesn't mean the religion's central dogma is to promote a slave mentality
tbh it isn't just gay people. we had a Japanese exchange person and my parents said 'you might have a crush on her' and I wasn't in the mood so I jokingly said 'not to be racist but she's Asian' (this is a lie Asian schoolgirls are my destiny) and they said 'tbh you're right, that's weird and gross' I was disgusted
You gave a generalization on a misinformed view of a religion that demeans others' religious views, especially those views of black Christians. I won't argue that religion has been used to promote racism, but that doesn't mean the religion's central dogma is to promote a slave mentality
Doesn't mean he's not absolutely right about the origins of Christianity among African Americans, regardless of what you believe about the religion it was forced on them at the expense of native regions and culture
You gave a generalization on a misinformed view of a religion that demeans others' religious views, especially those views of black Christians. I won't argue that religion has been used to promote racism, but that doesn't mean the religion's central dogma is to promote a slave mentality
I said Christianity was introduced to slaves via their slave masters (which is a fact), and that is why I PERSONALLY don't practice Christianity. I didn't say anyone else was a mental slave or whatever for still doing so. Of course Christianity's central focus is positive, I'm not attacking the religion. I'm just saying the way it was used to manipulate has lasting effects that make me want to separate myself from it.
tbh it isn't just gay people. we had a Japanese exchange person and my parents said 'you might have a crush on her' and I wasn't in the mood so I jokingly said 'not to be racist but she's Asian' (this is a lie Asian schoolgirls are my destiny) and they said 'tbh you're right, that's weird and gross' I was disgusted
to say it's the gay's fault entirely is wrong
I think the point that they're heading toward is more like "how can a group like the LGBT group that has been oppressed in the past, do the exact thing to its own members?"
I'm friends with a two East-Asian gay guys and they've told me some stories that make me so embarrassed of the gay community here However I think that South Asian gays have it the worst, easily.
Having said that, we're a lot more accepting of minorities than many of the racial/ethnic minorities are of homosexuality, so that's something
I agree. It really has to do with skin tone tbh. Researches have found that the society tend to favour people with brighter skin tone.
East Asians can get away with racism sometimes, but South Asians really have it worse.
I find it ironic when white people try to get tanned, but I and most East Asians I know try to stay away from the sun as much as we can to look as "white" as possible - for both beauty standard and avoiding racism purposes. (it's quite easy in Canada tbh ) It's like some black parents teach their kids to act and wear in a certain way to avoid racism if they can. Sometimes I really hate myself for that, but it's the way it is. The whole situation is just sad
Doesn't mean he's not absolutely right about the origins of Christianity among African Americans, regardless of what you believe about the religion it was forced on them at the expense of native regions and culture
I did not argue that. I quoted him saying that "Christianity is a slave master's religion" and cringed because of what I thought he meant by that statement
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I said Christianity was introduced to slaves via their slave masters (which is a fact), and that is why I PERSONALLY don't practice Christianity. I didn't say anyone else was a mental slave or whatever for still doing so. Of course Christianity's central focus is positive, I'm not attacking the religion. I'm just saying the way it was used to manipulate has lasting effects that make me want to separate myself from it.
My bad. I interpreted this quoted text:
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That was the purpose, to brain wash the slaves. Till this day that's what it does. That's why I refuse to practice Christianity because it's a slave master religion.
as suggesting that current black Christians were buying into a slave mentality and was offended by the generalization.
do you know what racism is? you don't have to HATE, you just have to treat people of color like they're not in your league.
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you have such a naive view of racism.
it's not all about "hate" like calling someone the n-word. in fact, i'd call that a mild form of racism compared to what we're discussing here, people of color being lumped together and dismissed as undesirable.
I don't have a naive idea of racism, but no one in this thread has said anything that is truly racist. Not being interested in black men is not racism.
Racism is treating anyone differently on the basis of their race. ANY race can experience this, not just non-whites. But every person that is a proponent to the OP has stated the idea that saying "No blacks" in your Grindr profile is a huge race issue. It's racist, sure. Is it a problem? No. If someone is going out of their way to challenge who you are, then that's an issue. Otherwise, don't give a ****.
I don't have a naive idea of racism, but no one in this thread has said anything that is truly racist. Not being interested in black men is not racism.
Racism is treating anyone differently on the basis of their race. ANY race can experience this, not just non-whites. But every person that is a proponent to the OP has stated the idea that saying "No blacks" in your Grindr profile is a huge race issue. It's racist, sure. Is it a problem? No. If someone is going out of their way to challenge who you are, then that's an issue. Otherwise, don't give a ****.
Why are you still talking about Grindr?
Is Grindr mentioned in my OP?
I'm talking about the ENTIRE REPRESENTATION OF LGBT people in MEDIA and the lack of visibility of anything that is not a white male!
He has a point tho. Each one of us, as individuals, know what we like. At least in my case, the media has nothing to do with my preferences.
Thats what you think, media has impact on everything, everything you see when youre little whether it be movies, music, posters, etc. and media has all the white guys and girls plastered everywhere, im not saying it makes your decision but it does impact your opinion and preference. That's why many gays want someone masculine and all macho because that's what is portrayed in pretty much everything.
And I saw someone say that having preferences is racist. I completely disagree with that.
Why don't people understand that the problem is preference in itself, but total exclusion You prefer white guys, okay that's nice. But then preferring white guys to the point of "i'll never date outside white guys", that's the problem.
This is true. But the latter is only ever seen on GRINDR. Never have I ever seen something on television where a gay male says "No blacks/Asians/Hispanics". I only see that type of thing said on Grindr and that is not an issue, in my mind. What dumbasses say on Grindr shouldn't be considered an issue.
They don't have to say it because you can see it. They write off minority gays as if they dont exist at all. You'd think given gays history they'd be more inclusive. The reverse is also true.
I still fail to see how having an ethnic preference is racist?
After 11 pages of people explaining it you still have no idea???
I'm going to quote khai as he has the best/simplest explanation
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Why don't people understand that the problem is preference in itself, but total exclusion You prefer white guys, okay that's nice. But then preferring white guys to the point of "i'll never date outside white guys", that's the problem.
meh. I live in Los angeles and there are a TON of gay latinos like me. Im good
I wonder how many people in atrl are actually a part of the real life LGBT community though. no shade but isn't like 90% of atrl members in the closet?