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Discussion: Is Taylor the The Beatles of our generation?
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Commercially? No
Critically? No
Musically? No
Influentially? No
But  at the delusion
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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In terms of comercial success yes but taylor is way better, I have never liked a single Beatles song I have heard
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Taylor is the dominant musical act in the US this decade. Slaying with Albums, singles and stadiums. So yes, she is the equivalent to the Beatles for this decade. She is probably more dominant in the US market than the Beatles ever were though.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor is the dominant musical act in the US this decade. Slaying with Albums, singles and stadiums. So yes, she is the equivalent to the Beatles for this decade. She is probably more dominant in the US market than the Beatles ever were though.
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Even if she will be considered the most successful act of this decade that does not make her The Beatles of the 2010s. Just like you don't see people calling Mariah Carey, The Beatles of the 1990s, or Eminem, The Beatles of the 2000s. It's sad that most of you fail to notice that with the big 3 of music, The Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson their domination went WAY beyond records sold, chart success, or stadiums toured.
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Not even close.
And there's no Beatles in our generation for that matter.
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Originally posted by KingKunta
Even if she will be considered the most successful act of this decade that does not make her The Beatles of the 2010s. Just like you don't see people calling Mariah Carey, The Beatles of the 1990s, or Eminem, The Beatles of the 2000s. It's sad that most of you fail to notice that with the big 3 of music, The Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson their domination went WAY beyond records sold, chart success, or stadiums toured.
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I understand your point. I just disagree with you. Taylor will be regarded as a legend from this era too. You'll see. The Beatles, Elvis and MJ are only regarded as legends because of their records sold, chart success and stadiums toured. It is this popularity as evidenced by those factors that causes them to be regarded so fondly/ranked so highly by that generation of fans. Successive generations were brought up on tales of these legends and in the minds of the impressionable these acts are put on pedestals that are untouchable. In reality these artists were just the most popular and successful of their day that made an impact on a wide swathe of the population.
The subsequent elevation of acts to legendary status is due to their fanbase inheriting the positions of tastemakers in the media which influence subsequent opinion. When they emerged The Rolling Stones and Elvis were castigated and mocked by the older generation who didn't think they were any good. It is only because they endured in popularity with their fans and their fanbases inherited the earth that they became legends.
I have no doubt that in decades from now, Taylor, Beyonce and Eminem will be regarded as legends from this part of the 21st Century. You can already see the media often calling Beyonce Queen. This is because her fans have inherited the positions of media tastemakers. She has been popular enough for long enough for this to happen. It is starting to happen with Taylor, who made RS 100 Greatest Songwriter's of All Time List and has made Time and Forbes' Power Lists.
The same thing happened with U2, MJ and Madonna. It will happen with Taylor too, you have to probably go back to Elvis to see such domination of the US music scene from one artist.
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Um, no. Taylor is way more legendary/talented/iconic/successful/etc
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No, The Beatles are influential + have actual impact
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Originally posted by revel8
I understand your point. I just disagree with you. Taylor will be regarded as a legend from this era too. You'll see. The Beatles, Elvis and MJ are only regarded as legends because of their records sold, chart success and stadiums toured. It is this popularity as evidenced by those factors that causes them to be regarded so fondly/ranked so highly by that generation of fans. Successive generations were brought up on tales of these legends and in the minds of the impressionable these acts are put on pedestals that are untouchable. In reality these artists were just the most popular and successful of their day that made an impact on a wide swathe of the population.
The subsequent elevation of acts to legendary status is due to their fanbase inheriting the positions of tastemakers in the media which influence subsequent opinion. When they emerged The Rolling Stones and Elvis were castigated and mocked by the older generation who didn't think they were any good. It is only because they endured in popularity with their fans and their fanbases inherited the earth that they became legends.
I have no doubt that in decades from now, Taylor, Beyonce and Eminem will be regarded as legends from this part of the 21st Century. You can already see the media often calling Beyonce Queen. This is because her fans have inherited the positions of media tastemakers. She has been popular enough for long enough for this to happen. It is starting to happen with Taylor, who made RS 100 Greatest Songwriter's of All Time List and has made Time and Forbes' Power Lists.
I have already seen this happen with U2, MJ and Madonna. It will happen with Taylor too, you have to probably go back to Elvis to see such domination of the US music scene from one artist.
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Well you clearly don't understand the point, that's why you disgree with me. Without The Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson we more than likely wouldn't even be having this conversation about not only Taylor Swift but all of the "pop girls" that are frequently talked about in general. Yes being the 3 most successful musical acts of all time and having the 3 biggest peaks music has even seen has a lot to do with it too, but even more than that they are regarded as the big 3 because of impact, influence, and being revolutionary.
Elvis kicked it all off by bringing black rock n roll music to the forefront, and pretty much making music exciting. The beginning of popular music. Having girls screaming and jumping and just overall losing their minds, the first music sex symbol if you will. The Beatles completely revolutionizing an entire genre and bringing rock music to the forefront, making record sales even more important. John Lennon and his peace movement. Stuff that even goes outside of music. And lastly Michael Jackson a his revolutionizing of pop, R&B, music videos, and dancing. Making it possible for black artists to have a chance at being the biggest in the industry, breaking down racial barriers. This is all impact and influence that Taylor Swift could only dream of. If Mariah Carey and Eminem aren't put on the levels on the big 3, with how much they brought to the table, what makes you think that Taylor Swift of all people will?
Yes her record sales are tremendous, she is very successful on the charts, and she can fill up stadiums at ease but where is the impact? What new has she brought to the game? Who has she influenced to the point of having someone say "I wouldn't have sang/performered if it weren't for Taylor Swift." Is she credited for revolutionizing and entire genre of music like rock n roll with Elvis, rock with The Beatles, or pop and R&B with MJ. The answer to all of this is, no matter how hard you stan for her, is no and no amount of record sales, tour reciepts, or number 1 singles can give her that.
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Her US slayage definitely can be compared to that one of the Beatles.
Taylor is also very critically acclaimed (although not as much as The Beatles) and there are a lot of upcoming artists and journalists who say on Twitter that Taylor is their inspiration.
But of course the Beatles and their legacy and success will never be surpassed by any artist, not Taylor, or anyone other artist.
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by revel8
Taylor is the dominant musical act in the US this decade. Slaying with Albums, singles and stadiums. So yes, she is the equivalent to the Beatles for this decade. She is probably more dominant in the US market than the Beatles ever were though.
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Um WHAT?  The Beatles had 20 #1s on the Hot 100 (the most #1s of any act ever), and once had the ENTIRE TOP 5 on the Hot 100 (this was the only time that has ever happened). Pretty much every single thing they released in the US went #1. Taylor is not and will never be even close to as dominant in the US as The Beatles were.
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Member Since: 12/14/2006
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No. She surpassed the Beatles already
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No, the Beatles wrote their own material by themselves. They were musicians and composers, she is not.
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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i wish some more ppl of y'all would have lived in the 80's and 90's to experience top tier slayage. and not even then was it ever comparable to the effing Beatles. Try having a 40 million copies selling soundtrack album like whitney or a 35 mllion selling studio album like shania (and alanis).. those were the days (and even then not quite beatles level).
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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No, but you can participate in the rate that's in my sig 
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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When Taylor does this, then maybe we can start to have a discussion about her being as commercially successful as The Beatles

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Member Since: 4/8/2012
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Originally posted by monsterLd
In terms of being overrated, then yes, but other than that, no.
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Member Since: 3/18/2012
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No and she will never get to their level, ever. This thread is some ******** and an embarassment 
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Only Iggy Azalea is since she was first to tie their score for a #1 and #2 at same time.
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