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Poll: Crazy in Love vs Toxic
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Beyonce - Crazy in Love
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Britney Spars - Toxic
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Originally posted by iHype.
We can also add:
— One of the biggest movies this decade wanted CIL to be their Soundtrack song because it's a remembered classic.
— NFL wanted her to perform the classic to 100 million people at the Super Bowl because it's a remembered classic from an artist with many classics and huge success.
Thanks for reminding us Trent.  |
Not only was it on the 50 Shades of Grey Soundtrack/Film, but it was also featured on the Gold Certified Soundtrack, The Great Gatsby.
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Originally posted by swissman
No impact?
It was almost always the highest listed pop song in critic’s decade end lists for the 2000s.
It paved the way for Amerie to haver her biggest hit of her career.
And it clearly inspired J.Lo’s Get Right.
The Oh-Oh dance very popular, even Oprah wanted to learn it
It has been in many big soundtracks.
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This!! You literally took the words out of my mouth.
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Rob Fitzpatrick of NME called "Crazy in Love" a "head-nodding [and] body-rocking funk-soul genius" and wrote that it is "a 100 per cent, stone-cold, dead-cert classic".
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''Why is Crazy in Love selling more than the other in 2015 with NO performances and it streamed more the last months without any performances or promotion?''
Idk just maybe, just maybe because it was Included in a major blockbuster film that grossed over $500 Million. 
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The answer is obviously "Crazy in Love," but obviously the results are going to be biased on a site full of racists, Beyoncé haters, Britney fans, and all of the above.
I don't hear "Toxic" regularly on the radio. I don't hear "Toxic" at weddings. "Toxic" is not considered one of the greatest songs of all time by Rolling Stone.
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Originally posted by Robinladen
''Why is Crazy in Love selling more than the other in 2015 with NO performances and it streamed more the last months without any performances or promotion?''
Idk just maybe, just maybe because it was Included in a major blockbuster film that grossed over $500 Million. |
Why did they include "Crazy in Love" but not "Toxic"?
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the hive it's delusion is real 
destroy that poll queen of pop 
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Originally posted by hitmebby1morex
Toxic IS revolutionary. The song was huge, the video was huge, every single look Britney had in the video is remembered and tried (see, Bad Blood). CIL is remembered by the urban community i guess, but Toxic is pop culture at it's finest, idk about CIL. The uh uh dance was cute tho.
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Not you discrediting the urban community, as if it's major impact in that type of music is not worth anything because it's not a traditional pop song.
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Originally posted by Robinladen
''Why is Crazy in Love selling more than the other in 2015 with NO performances and it streamed more the last months without any performances or promotion?''
Idk just maybe, just maybe because it was Included in a major blockbuster film that grossed over $500 Million. |
It was also getting more streams and sales PROIR to the new version and announcement on Soundtrack, and this was pointed out pages ago.
Coming in late with a tacky reply that's been clocked.
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Originally posted by Cherry
The answer is obviously "Crazy in Love," but obviously the results are going to be biased on a site full of racists, Beyoncé haters, Britney fans, and all of the above.
I don't hear "Toxic" regularly on the radio. I don't hear "Toxic" at weddings. "Toxic" is not considered one of the greatest songs of all time by Rolling Stone.
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It was listed as one of the best songs of the decade by rolling stone, and pitchfork and won a Grammy for ''Best Dance Recording'' on top of other accolades and praise. Stop actin like ''Toxic'' was just a big hit.
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It was listed as one of the best songs of the decade by rolling stone, and pitchfork and won a Grammy for ''Best Dance Recording'' on top of other accolades and praise. Stop actin like ''Toxic'' was just a big hit. |
It was not listed as one of Rolling Stone's 500 greatest songs of all time, though. And "Crazy in Love" won two Grammys, and was nominated for Record of the Year.
"Toxic" was massive, but "Crazy in Love" is a modern classic.
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Originally posted by swissman
Not you discrediting the urban community, as if it's major impact in that type of music is not worth anything because it's not a traditional pop song.
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Stahp!
I love Beyonce and CIL, i just think there's nothing other than the SONG to be "remembered". had Toxic been compared to something like Single Ladies (a phenomenon), this would all make sense, but...no.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Omg I actually believed them when they called it local
The massive success, the massive acclaim, the awards.
It's insulting to even compare a throwaway modest hit like Toxic to this classic. |
In a 2005 poll conducted by Sony Ericsson, "Toxic" was ranked as the world's second favorite song, only behind "We Are the Champions" by Queen. Over 700,000 people in 60 different countries cast their votes.
In 2009, NPR included "Toxic" on their Most Important Recordings of the Decade list. Amy Schriefer noted that the song's synths defined the sound of dance-pop for the rest of the decade, while adding that it "still sound[s] fresh and futuristic. "Toxic" was listed on several others end of the decade lists; at number forty-seven by NME, forty-four by Rolling Stone and seventeen on The Daily Telegraph
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Originally posted by hitmebby1morex
Toxic IS revolutionary. The song was huge, the video was huge, every single look Britney had in the video is remembered and tried (see, Bad Blood). CIL is remembered by the urban community i guess, but Toxic is pop culture at it's finest, idk about CIL. The uh uh dance was cute tho.
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1. You trying to say CIL is remembered only by the Urban audiences is false because it still gets spins on Pop, Rhythmic, and AC stations - which Toxic does not. Toxic doesn't get plays on any format so if you think saying, "CIL is remembered by the urban community i guess" is an insult think again.
2. The same could be said for Toxic really, Britney doesn't have a remembered move or dance routine. Beyonce has two.
3. Toxic did not pave the way or start any trend musically. Beyonce started the horns trend that lasted until 2007 really. Toxic was dance pop/edm - which didn't pop off until 2009 - thanks to Gaga and BEP. Britney later jumped back on that trend in 2011 but unfortunately she still wasn't ab;e to shift 1M copies of that album.
4. So to wrap this up Crazy in Love has more: - Views
Sales
Recurrent Sales
Covers by unknown and major artists
Airplay
and etc.
You can give any cockamainey reason the list above is, it doesn't matter.
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Originally posted by hitmebby1morex
Stahp!
I love Beyonce and CIL, i just think there's nothing other than the SONG to be "remembered". had Toxic been compared to something like Single Ladies (a phenomenon), this would all make sense, but...no. |
Don't tell me to stop after you say you guess its remembered in the urban community, when it's CLEARLY remembered by other communities. Wasn't 50 Shades a white girl book?
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Originally posted by swissman
No impact?
It was almost always the highest listed pop song in critic’s decade end lists for the 2000s.
It paved the way for Amerie to haver her biggest hit of her career.
And it clearly inspired J.Lo’s Get Right.
The Oh-Oh dance very popular, even Oprah wanted to learn it
It has been in many big soundtracks.
etc.
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Critics are not impact, Get right sounds nothing like CIL, The oh oh was popular ok, and being soundtracks depends on the negotiations of a label no impact.
The only thing that made impact was the oh oh, which makes the songs catchy, but that can be said about any big song
Nor the song, or video or even the choreo are iconic
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Originally posted by Amow.
In a 2005 poll conducted by Sony Ericsson, "Toxic" was ranked as the world's second favorite song, only behind "We Are the Champions" by Queen. Over 700,000 people in 60 different countries cast their votes.
In 2009, NPR included "Toxic" on their Most Important Recordings of the Decade list. Amy Schriefer noted that the song's synths defined the sound of dance-pop for the rest of the decade, while adding that it "still sound[s] fresh and futuristic. "Toxic" was listed on several others end of the decade lists; at number forty-seven by NME, forty-four by Rolling Stone and seventeen on The Daily Telegraph
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! Members doing the most as per usual to discredit Britney's earlier success because they know their favorites will never be able to replicate it. 
Not to mention that it has been covered multiple times, was ALSO included in two films, and has just as good recurrent AI without the help of TWO MAJOR PROMO SPOTS like a major blockbuster film, and the SP. But here they are acting like CIL was pulling in the sales, AI, and views like it is currently prior to those two things.
Like get a grip, Toxic is just as much of a modern classic but because it wasn't included in ONE list it takes away from its other achievements that are just as impressive.
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Originally posted by Trent W
Critics are not impact, Get right sounds nothing like CIL, The oh oh was popular ok, and being soundtracks depends on the negotiations of a label no impact.
The only thing that made impact was the oh oh, which makes the songs catchy, but that can be said about any big song
Nor the song, or video or even the choreo are iconic |
But can that be said about "Toxic," boo?
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Originally posted by Robinladen
''Why is Crazy in Love selling more than the other in 2015 with NO performances and it streamed more the last months without any performances or promotion?''
Idk just maybe, just maybe because it was Included in a major blockbuster film that grossed over $500 Million. |
Fact. Why wouldn't people remember a song they actually want to listen to? 
If the song wasn't remembered nor iconic no one would have asked for a new version of the song nor would they have asked for a cover in 2013's The Great Gatsby. If Beyonce didn't have CIL among other remembered hits, why would anyone ask her to perform a bunch of songs they didn't know? If she didn't have relevant/remembered hits, no one would be asking Beyonce to do anything in 2015 - almost 20 years after her initial debut.
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