I agree with this. If someone doesn't want to make a cake - they don't have to make a cake. I think people are going to these businesses and suing them on purpose. It's disgusting.

I think the term "Nazi" is not the idealistic term to use.

However, I do agree with him in one thing: you can't FORCE someone to bake a cake. If they don't want to that's their loss, you go to another bakery who will bake an even more FABULOUS cake for you.

I get the whole principle of "don't discriminate" and all that, but suing for 135,000 dollars? come on. Why not just sue for the price of the cake?

Anyways, for the businesses turning people away, they also need to deal with the consequences (Memories Pizza, some other bakeries), if you deny service and it goes viral, of course you need to face the fact that people will target you for discrimination and refusal of service: So i'm not sorry for you either

Quoting a site by Fischer, a man who if given the power would recriminalize homosexuality. Great job.

They were sued that much because the Kleins posted the person's personal information after receiving a letter they would have to appear before a commission. After that the lesbian couple got death threats and their foster daughter could've been taken away from them. It was for those reasons, not the refusal. The refusal wouldn't have garnered that big of a fine.

Interesting perspective... Not really

What is a commission? Is that considered a lawsuit?

Disgusting and shameless.

The couple rarely talked about it, they even dropped the original complaint. It was the Kleins that kept peddling their story and at first were told by the Bureau to stop, but didn't.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/lesb...being-bullied/

The bakers managed to raise $400,000 which they can keep to themselves so it's not they are dead broke by the way.

The baker quoted Leviticus. I had a thread on the official Oregon verdict, let me dig it up.

I don't agree. If you serve the public you must serve all of the public. You can't refuse service to other minorities either.

Yes, because everyone has a sign up front that automatically tells you if they're religious

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I agree with his point ngl.

but Nazi though?

You have a right to refuse service in certain situations. They didn't discriminate based on a characteristic, but the intended use of the cake.

Why can't you respect the fact that they are and move on? Once it is evident they are religious why would you force yourself on them? Why are your rights more important then their rights?

They have the First Amendment that is supposed to protect them.

I am saying that Goosey is implying people see a bakery and go there JUST to sue. No one knows that the bakers are religious most of the time until they themselves say so. The couple dropped the suit, it was the bakery keeping the story alive.

If you knew anything, you would know that businesses reserve the right to refuse service to customers. Don't you ever see those shady stores that post signs like this?

Why would a gay couple want to be giving their money to a religious shop owner if they hate religious people so much? Just go get a cake somewhere else.

They weren't fined for not serving a cake. They were fined for giving out the couple's private information which resulted in them receiving a lot of harassment and death threats

u r evil

You can, but once the reason is known and it clashes with anti-discrimination laws then it's up in the air to see what will happen. They don't hate religious people, it was actually the baker that quoted Leviticus so I would say if anyone is not keen on anyone it's him.