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Music News: HITS: Adele, Harry Styles
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HITS: Adele, Harry Styles
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ANGLO-AMERICAN RELATIONS: Are Modest Management’s Richard Griffiths and Capitol Music Group ruler Steve Barnett at it again? They’re now partnering on the three-girl/one-guy group Hey Violet, who’ll be doing 80 dates as the opening act for 5 Seconds of Summer before releasing a record. Meanwhile, 5SOS and 1 Direction will both be delivering albums for fall release. This will be the last 1D album under the SYCO-Sony deal. Some U.K. pundits believe Zayn Malik’s solo breakthrough may be the next big thing to come out of the 1D camp, as Naughty Boy, Drake and Max Martin’s names begin to surface in conjunction with a project that could see a Q4 album of self-composed material. Word of said project has led to renewed chatter about the leaving-member clause believed to be in 1D’s contract with Simon Cowell’s SYCO. This scenario could make for an interesting SYCO/Sony moment, with 1D and Malik both having new music out at the same time. Concurrently, lips are flapping about 1D’s Harry Styles, who’s said to be looking for U.S. representation to help guide his solo career. Will Harry throw in his lot with a high-profile American manager? Most observers have long assumed that Styles would be the big breakout act from 1D.
It appears that everyone in the industry is wondering how big a boost the release of Adele’s next album later this year will give the business as a whole, and what part Apple Music will specifically play in the rollout. But some in the U.K. question whether Adele’s album will make it before the end of the year. For now, manager Jonathan Dickins and the rest of Adele’s team are keeping a close watch on how the new platform impacts the market; this release is so important that they want to make sure all the planets are perfectly aligned before they push the button. Additionally, a number of other big acts and their labels are believed to be scrutinizing the impact of Apple Music on the marketplace as they try to figure out how to play the new-release game.
STATESIDE ACTION: Scott Borchetta came close to selling half of his Big Machine Label Group to Jay Z’s Roc Nation for $135m, but that deal—which most saw as an odd fit—did not close. According to Live Nation’s Michael Rapino, Roc Nation’s joint-venture partner, his company has no interest in owning a record label... In other Roc Nation news, rumors are circulating about a growing dissatisfaction on the parts of a number of artists and/or their managers with the management company and/or record label, as Roc Nation becomes an increasingly significant factor in the music business... Regarding Lil Wayne delivering his album exclusively to Tidal, does said album count as part of the contractual-delivery requirement of his contract with Slim and Baby’s Cash Money? Look for a battle to ensue over this seemingly unresolved issue...
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It appears that everyone in the industry is wondering how big a boost the release of Adele’s next album later this year will give the business as a whole, and what part Apple Music will specifically play in the rollout. But some in the U.K. question whether Adele’s album will make it before the end of the year. For now, manager Jonathan Dickins and the rest of Adele’s team are keeping a close watch on how the new platform impacts the market; this release is so important that they want to make sure all the planets are perfectly aligned before they push the button.
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Concurrently, lips are flapping about 1D’s Harry Styles, who’s said to be looking for U.S. representation to help guide his solo career.
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Additionally, a number of other big acts and their labels are believed to be scrutinizing the impact of Apple Music on the marketplace as they try to figure out how to play the new-release game.
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I see you Kanye & Rih !
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I'm glad they're treating it as a big deal. I'm assuming they're using this time right now to plan the era. 
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Could you imagine Adele's sales if she released on Black Friday 
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Could you imagine Adele's sales if she released on Black Friday 
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This is probably how it'll go. Single in September/early October, album on Black Friday or the week before.
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This is probably how it'll go. Single in September/early October, album on Black Friday or the week before.
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Goodbye, Britney's record 
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Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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It could go either way. She could have a soft opening (600k+) - I say soft compared to what is popularly expected - or she could ignite a ton of impulse buys and sport giant, record breaking numbers.
We don't have the stats to know a pattern with her yet, first week wise.
But I'm still expecting Winter 2017 (January/Feb). They can't and won't force her sooner, even if they see another year of losses if she doesn't come out. Hence this continued debate on when she'll release. I'm sure enough material has been done to the point it's not about it being ready.
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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as much as certain stans want Adele to break it, I feel as though the wait has taken away a bit. in 2013/4 I believed it would happen.
that said, I hope Britney can keep it until october 2016 at least
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Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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But to be fair, you're saying this based on one era, which isn't a reliable basis to formulate statistical conclusions. People could have said this about Britney about OIDIA, given how BOMT opened small and was a slow burner. People could have said this about Norah, who opened at just #163 with the album before her big debut.
In fact, the pattern of major debuts coming after breakout eras with smaller debuts is a far stronger pattern than that of Adele's own sales, given that she just had her breakout. She hit 730,000 in peak weekly sales after the Grammy Awards, so we know she has the capacity to shift a huge number of units very quickly.
I'd bet on her crossing a million; if she debuts on Black Friday itself, I would put good money on her beating Britney with relative ease.
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But I'm still expecting Winter 2017 (January/Feb). They can't and won't force her sooner, even if they see another year of losses if she doesn't come out. Hence this continued debate on when she'll release. I'm sure enough material has been done to the point it's not about it being ready.
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While I agree that they can't force her to work any faster than she wants to work and release, I honestly see it this year. Six years is far too long to wait for a follow-up, even for her, and I think she knows that.
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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You're basing this off of what, exactly?
21 opened with 355k and she was still virtually unknown here. She's not released an album since. The album probably won't be on streaming services it's first week and she's already proven the sales decline doesn't really affect her, at least not on the levels of others, so that shouldn't really affect her.
Taylor opened with 1.2 million and Adele has even broader appeal than her.
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But to be fair, you're saying this based on one era, which isn't a reliable basis to formulate statistical conclusions. People could have said this about Britney about OIDIA, given how BOMT opened small and was a slow burner. People could have said this about Norah, who opened at just #163 with the album before her big debut.
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You're basing this off of what, exactly?
21 opened with 355k and she was still virtually unknown here. She's not released an album since. The album probably won't be on streaming services it's first week and she's already proven the sales decline doesn't really affect her, at least not on the levels of others, so that shouldn't really affect her.
Taylor opened with 1.2 million and Adele has even broader appeal than her.
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I'm not really basing my estimation on the sales of her previous albums. I'm basing it on the type of artist she is and the type of music she's most likely to release for her third album. Adele is an HAC / AC artist (with a remarkable ability to cross over of course). She doesn't have the teen frenzy factor that led *NSYNC and Britney to sell 2+ and 1+ million respectively. She also took a really long hiatus, whereas most record breaking sales happen thanks to striking while the iron is hot.
She'll still slay, I'm not saying she'll underperform. But anything within the 600k - 900k region for her sounds more realistic to me than 1.3 million.
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But some in the U.K. question whether Adele’s album will make it before the end of the year
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If Britney's record is broken it had 15 years! Queen!
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Adele will sell 900k - 950k with a HUGE single. Britney's record is safe. Adele relies on longevity rather than a huge instant phenomenon.
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We don't know how Adele will perform first week wise. All we know is that Adele has become HUGE from her 21 era and that she was able to sell a 1 year old album at over 700k sales. So don't say for certain Britney is safe.
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