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Taylor has officially usurped Beyoncé : NYPOST
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
who has in the digital age besides Adele
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1989 probably will though in 2014 sales
Lets hope beys next album does half of that
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She wouldn't even be in the conversation if it wasn't for the 1989 era. Taylor literally took a big fat **** on the industry and made it fun again(as far as promotion, marketing, etc.). Her power is undeniable.
BuT, she lacks in areas where Beyonce shines..like entertaining(performing)..
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Originally posted by Timber
In celebration of her 32nd birthday, we've ranked Queen Bey's top 30 Billboard hits. The chart is based on actual performance on the weekly Billboard Hot 100. Songs are ranked using an inverse point system, with weeks at No. 1 earning the greatest value and weeks at No. 100 earning the least.
They claim DC songs as Queen Bey's.
Anyways, both DC and Beyoncé have each had more weeks at #1 than Taylor has.
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Not on the albums chart ![:D](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
and its not on her chart history so theyve obviously changed their minds about that
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Originally posted by ToLove
Taylor has been undeniably more successful and influential than Bey since 2009.
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What is influential about Taylor?
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Originally posted by 400Lux
The fact that Beyoncé's closest thing to be considered iconic - the Single Ladies video - lost to Taylor Swift's music video YBWM at the VMA's, and when Kanye West went to say Single Ladies was actually better, everybody was outraged and shocked shows that Taylor has been eclipsing Beyoncé ever since 2009
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Yeah, the music video that ended up winning the most important award of the night. Never mind Beyonce has won best female video multiple times. Taylor can have that, we're good with our 16/17 VMA awards. Sis, the moment was mostly about Kanye's crazy antics. Before that Taylor Swift was a non-factor to the general public.
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Originally posted by Ash12345
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Gotta give them props for trying tho it must be sad when your fave gets crushed so brutally.
1989 has actually sold more albums than beyonce has this decade with her entire catalogue.
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Lol. Let's see how well Taylor will be selling by her 3rd decade in the industry. I don't think it'll look so pretty.
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Y'all gotta stop with this "BEYONCE IS MUSIC ROYALTY AND EVERYONE IS BENEATH HER" crap. The endless media praise she receives does not dispute facts.
Taylor's most recent album has already sold more than Beyonce and 4 combined, and had enough success to impact a monumental corporation like Apple with its business decisions.
Taylor's had 3 #1 singles off of 1989 (so far), more than Bey has ever received from any of her albums.
Taylor's 1989 tour is already on course to outgross every Beyonce tour to date.
Taylor holds the record for reaching 1 billion views on YouTube faster than any other female artist to date.
Taylor is the only currently popular female pop star to attain an Album of the Year award at the Grammy's.
The list goes on, and she's done more than enough to claim her title as the current pop music queen. She's been releasing music since 2006, so she's not some fad who could be here and gone within a year like Norah Jones. She's had more than enough hits, album sales, sold-out tour venues, longevity, and yes, impact, for the media to rave about her success, because unlike many cases in Beyonce's recent past, the proof is right in front of us and not just hollow smoke and mirrors. Numbers don't lie, and she doesn't need a tirelessly working PR team or a hip-hop mogul husband worth above $550M to prove her status. That is the fine difference.
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They're both the best pop stars we have nowadays so it doesn't matter
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Originally posted by NX127
Nt a BeyHive but .. The delusion ... I can't
Beyonce is an all-around entertainer, with a huge, diverse, outstanding discography, videography and overall career.
Taylor Swift is white kids music act. Like, just a more successful Rebecca Black, nothing else
No matter how much she sells, Taylor will always be like ants to Beyonce's feet.
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that doesn't even make sense. if taylor is selling 8 million of an album i highly doubt all 8 million of the people that bought the album were white kids. are there even that many white kids buying albums? there's no way of knowing for sure but i doubt it. and she's nothing like rebecca black because people actually legitimately like her :I
i don't want to take down beyonce. i think beyonce is a great performer and has made a lot of really good music in her own way, just like i think taylor has made great things in her own way. but i just think it's unfair to completely reduce taylor to that when she really is doing big things right now, and i think she could match beyonce someday.
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Originally posted by Ash12345
Beyonce had 3 years in the game more than taylor and still got outsold by her
#poorthat
It's not the length of time that matters but what you do in that time hence why madonna is more successful than cher.
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Quick question:
Let's take a look at the top 10 actresses with the most box office power:
10. Anne Hathaway
9. Scarlett Johansson
8. Sandra Bullock
7. Sigourney Weaver
6. Kathey Bates
5. Cate Blanchett
4. Helena Bonham Carter
3. Julia Roberts
2. Emma Watson
1. Cameron Diaz
http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainm...tml/?a=viewall
Do you think they are better actresses than Meryl Streep? Do you think the GP considers them better, more influential, more powerful than Meryl? Do you believe anyone would say Cameron is significantly better than Meryl cause she sold more at the box office?
I guess you know the answer. Same goes for the sale arguments and Beyonce. At the end of the day, talent and power will sustain and remain while the other accomplishments will only be numbers for the catalog.
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Originally posted by Timber
Lol. Let's see how well Taylor will be selling by her 3rd decade in the industry. I don't think it'll look so pretty.
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Probably better than bey will be
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8 years into beys career (2011-2003=8)
Bey released 4 which sold 3.1 million WW and produced 0 top ten singles
8 years into tays career
Taylor released 1989 which sold 7.7 million WW (and counting) and produced 3 #1 singles
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she has usurped Bey for quite a while now.
Who has a Grammy for AOTY?
Who has sold 1 million + for 3 weeks now?
Who has gotten the World's most valuable company to bend to their knees?
Who has the highest sales of the two in the U.S. and the World?
It's Taylor. And she's younger. And been in the business for less time too.
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Quick question:
Let's take a look at the top 10 actresses with the most box office power:
10. Anne Hathaway
9. Scarlett Johansson
8. Sandra Bullock
7. Sigourney Weaver
6. Kathey Bates
5. Cate Blanchett
4. Helena Bonham Carter
3. Julia Roberts
2. Emma Watson
1. Cameron Diaz
http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainm...tml/?a=viewall
Do you think they are better actresses than Meryl Streep? Do you think the GP considers them better, more influential, more powerful than Meryl? Do you believe anyone would say Cameron is significantly better than Meryl cause she sold more at the box office?
I guess you know the answer. Same goes for the sale arguments and Beyonce. At the end of the day, talent and power will sustain and remain while the other accomplishments will only be numbers for the catalog.
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A musician produces their own movies. An actress merely contributes their own performance rather than making the entire movie.
Do I agree with the top 5 highest selling musicians being the most powerful and influential?
1) Beatles
2,3) MJ/Elvis
4) Madonna
5) Elton John
Yes, I most certainly do.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Quick question:
Let's take a look at the top 10 actresses with the most box office power:
10. Anne Hathaway
9. Scarlett Johansson
8. Sandra Bullock
7. Sigourney Weaver
6. Kathey Bates
5. Cate Blanchett
4. Helena Bonham Carter
3. Julia Roberts
2. Emma Watson
1. Cameron Diaz
http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainm...tml/?a=viewall
Do you think they are better actresses than Meryl Streep? Do you think the GP considers them better, more influential, more powerful than Meryl? Do you believe anyone would say Cameron is significantly better than Meryl cause she sold more at the box office?
I guess you know the answer. Same goes for the sale arguments and Beyonce. At the end of the day, talent and power will sustain and remain while the other accomplishments will only be numbers for the catalog.
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Meryl Streep has the Oscars to her name.
Beyonce has plenty of grammys, but Taylor has more General Category grammys than Bey, including AOTY.
Critically AND sales wise AND influence wise, Taylor wins. Hands down. No argument.
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Quick question:
Let's take a look at the top 10 actresses with the most box office power:
10. Anne Hathaway
9. Scarlett Johansson
8. Sandra Bullock
7. Sigourney Weaver
6. Kathey Bates
5. Cate Blanchett
4. Helena Bonham Carter
3. Julia Roberts
2. Emma Watson
1. Cameron Diaz
http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainm...tml/?a=viewall
Do you think they are better actresses than Meryl Streep? Do you think the GP considers them better, more influential, more powerful than Meryl? Do you believe anyone would say Cameron is significantly better than Meryl cause she sold more at the box office?
I guess you know the answer. Same goes for the sale arguments and Beyonce. At the end of the day, talent and power will sustain and remain while the other accomplishments will only be numbers for the catalog.
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well that's suprising ![eek](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/eek.gif)
but why are u using meryl synonymously with beyonce.... shoudnt that be madonna? ![confused](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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