No it is not Both of those examples are terrible

If a bakery sells wedding cakes, they have to sell them to everyone. What next, are they gonna start rejecting interracial couples? Many people back then claimed their religions we're against that? Do you support that?

And yes, this is the same as not serving someone because they're gay. They're refusing service because the person is marrying someone of the same sex, when they would definitely make it if that person was marrying the opposite sex. They;re refusing their service (wedding cakes) because the person is marrying the same gender (which is the only gender a gay person would want to marry).

It's NOT the same thing because if the gay couple had gone in and asked for a birthday cake, the store - if they had any decency or common sense - would most likely have done it. If they didn't, then I'd be inclined to pull the discrimination card.

You can't force a private business to do something that violates their religious beliefs. And it's not as if there aren't plenty of other bakeries that would be willing to bake for a gay wedding.

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Having your company be involved with a same-sex wedding can imply support for same-same marriage. If a Christian company doesn't want that association with their brand, that's their prerogative. There is a religious association with a wedding, because Christians see marriage as a covenant before God. There is not a religious association with serving cake to a gay person.

It has nothing to do with the people, but the ceremony itself.

I probably would be hurt. Whoever mentioned the interracial marriage example above actually had me thinking about this, since I am mixed-race. If I was marrying someone of another race and a bakery refused to bake a cake for my wedding because of that, I would probably be very angry. But I can also accept it as an interpretation of Biblical text (an interpretation that I believe to be very flawed, FWIW).

But you know what? If a company had views like that, I wouldn't want them involved in my wedding anyway. I wouldn't waste my time taking the company to court for a personal conviction they have, even if I disagree with it.

Not really. There are some Christian churches that welcome homosexuals.

You purposefully dodged my question. So you're saying interracial couples should be rejected too? Because like I said before, many people used religion to justify their intolerance of those marriages. What about couples where one person had a divorce? Couples where the wife isn't a virgin? They all can be rejected by businesses because of "religious beliefs"?

The whole religion excuse is ******** and I'm glad the courts saw right through it.

I wouldn't expect you too but that's not the point. The point is that it is wrong to do that based of a a moral and legal perspective. The point is that it's important to discourage bigotry. I don't think the couple returned to the bakery after the lawsuit and demanded a cake. They clearly agree with you and don't want them involved anyway.

I personally don't agree that it is wrong. I think if anyone has any religious convictions that can be backed up via legitimate religious texts (even if their interpretation is questionable), they shouldn't be forced to go against those beliefs. The truth is that a majority of businesses don't have religious affiliations, and many that do wouldn't necessarily be opposed to participating in a gay wedding, so finding another bakery to do it wouldn't be hard.

I can see the point you're making, but I just don't personally agree.

My question for you, though, is should a Christian pastor be forced to marry a same-sex couple if that violates his beliefs, or otherwise risk being sued or his church losing tax exemptions? Because these are the implications that could arise if a strong precedent for religious freedom of businesses is not established.

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No, because the church is a religious establishment and a bakery is not.

For all you kweens who are mad because you can't read or think from a logical matter of LAW, remember that a BUSINESS has the RIGHT to deny service. Point blank period. Your pressed feelings on "gay rights refusal" are unwarranted because you are coming from a place of hurt. You can't force a business to do ****.

Cherry is absolutely right and until you all start to OWN a business, don't speak on things you have no idea about. Until then, you have the right to do with your vibrators what you please - since that's the only thing you OWN anyway.