Money is power the more they pander the more power we have then they have to listen too us cause we are in their pockets. I would say the same to my own race. You have to buy your way to the top. Whining about being oppressed isn't going to do it. Lie cheat and steal and you will run world. It's awful but its the only way in this sick and twisted world.

90% of fans of ANY pop act are young girls except for old female pop acts like madonna, cher and gaga, britney, etc.

and he's about as "legit ally" as any random liberal on the street

Reading your posts is always depressing with all that pessimism.

I don't see the big deal tbh. Especially since gays are constantly seeking approval from society and when str8's don't support ya'll, they're automatically deemed homophobic. What do ya'll want, actually?

Campaigning for rights, correcting misinformation and demanding respect is not the same as seeking approval and validation like the thread starter's feeling about being waneed and needed.

And no, not supporting gays doesn't make one homophobic. Average people are indifferent, which is cool with me.

Mte. I also give Nick a pass because 1) I genuinely enjoy his music, and have even before he went solo 2) he does try to raise awareness and does activism, even if it's not as obvious as Gaga.

I think it becomes problematic when you have celebs like Justin who clearly pander to boost sales, when they've never cared for LGBT before. Or even to use my own faves as an example: One Direction, early on, gained popularity by pretending to be gay with each other every time a camera was around. It was a clear and calculated grasp at the gay community's attention because they knew that their fans were mostly gays and horny teen girls. Now that they're all grown up, you have them backtracking and throwing fits whenever someone hints at them being gay. And afaik, none of them actually do any kind of philanthropy like Gaga has done. You even have female celebs who say "I support gays" or employ gay backup dancers and stylists, but when it comes to actually speaking up for us when it matters, they are always silent.

There's a very clear difference between genuine respect and pandering, and I think we all know who tends to be guilty of the latter.

It's definitely tacky when people or companies make it obvious that they are in it for the promotion and have no interest in genuinely supporting our community.

On the other hand, I feel like some people are too quick to yell "pandering" without knowing the intentions of the people raising awareness.

eh. i don't think pandering itself is bad or good but i wish people wouldn't say they do it out of support for gay people when they actually just want money. it's annoying. and i do think some people are legitimately trying to help, but i don't think everyone who claims to love gay people is.

Wait, he does? I've genuinely never heard anything about Nick doing this? I 100% agree on Gaga though, she does so much activism to the point it'd arguably be more profitable (from that PoV) to cut back, so there's no way it's not because she thinks it's the right thing.

Katy is another one who blatantly panders to gays and really doesn't care all that much who just infuriates me. I'd rather they just be open about not caring vs. use gays for sales And pretending to be gay for attention annoys me even worse (@Jessie J being lesbian for 3 minutes to make people know who she is)

Same is done to straight guys by females and vice versa, so it's only fair the same is done to the gheys.

They can exploit me all they want. I only ask for shirtless pics in return tbh.

Reality is, pandering or not, it's largely beneficial when celebs actually do this. It makes other people aware that we're no different than they are. That we also enjoy the same things in life. Although there are some like Justin B who are extremely transparent in their "sincerity".

It's not bad at all. It just shows that we're a desired demographic and I think that's pretty amazing. Like even viners/youtubers now are going out of their way and kissing their gay fans on the cheek-- I think that's pretty amazing. The gay community just isn't invisible anymore.

The closeted homosexuals say gay pandering is bad because they aren't free to enjoy it. Praying for them tbh