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Discussion: Marriage Equality causes Pastors Association to FUME.
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Marriage Equality causes Pastors Association to FUME.
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The head of an organization of African-American pastors told Newsmax Saturday that Christians must oppose the Supreme Court's gay marriage ruling through civil disobedience because "you do something to get arrested to call attention to the injustice."
"I was in the civil rights movement, so I know how to do it" the Rev. Bill Owens, president of the Coalition of African-American Pastors (CAAP), said in an interview. "When we sat at the counters at restaurants, we knew we were going to be arrested. You do things to get arrested, to call attention to it.
When asked why people were unwilling to speak against President Barack Obama when he came out for gay marriage in 2012, Owens responded: "The whites didn't want to come out against Obama since he endorsed it so strongly and they didn't want to be called bigots — and the blacks didn't want to say they were betraying a black man. Scalia slammed the majority's opinion as a "threat to American democracy."
The decision "says that my ruler and the ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court," Scalia said. Founded in 1993, CAAP is based in Memphis and has more than 7,000 members. In 2012, the group spoke out against both President Obama and the NAACP for their gay marriage support.
In April, the group called on liberal Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Elena Kagan to recuse themselves from the case because of their "stated bias" on the issue."Their positions were already known," Owens told Newsmax. "That takes away from the credibility of the court's decision.
"They got it wrong in the Dred Scott case," he added, referring to the 1857 court ruling that blacks were property and not American citizens. "The Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. This is one time they really got it wrong."Despite the court's ruling, "I absolutely would not do a gay marriage," Owens declared. "Absolutely.
. "What it's going to do to our children. What kind of world are they going to grow up in? "I've said for two years that we're going to have to have civil disobedience. They were very cunning in the way they did it," he said, referencing gay-rights advocates. "Since I was in the civil rights movement, I know that if the people come together in force, things will happen.
"The homosexual community has not shown all of what it's going to do," Owens said. He mentioned a 2013 California law that allows boys and girls to use the same bathrooms and showers in public schools."He [Obama] deceived the American people, because the black community would not have backed him had he come out the first time for same-sex marriage. Some people just didn't want to speak against Obama."
"Remember, blacks worked for 300 years for civil rights in the courts. Three-hundred long years. It's not something that we're going to win overnight. "There is no quick fix, but I think now the church will rise up," Owens added. "All the Christian churches in the United States that believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, they need to rise up."
We're asking people to rise up and be ready to go to jail," Owens told Newsmax. "Why go to jail? To let it be known that we will not bow down, we will not give up, whatever the costs."It’s the new civil rights movement, because they are taking away our rights. They are taking away the Christian's rights. This is just a start.
"We have nothing against homosexuals,"Owens added, "but when you start talking about marriage, and then indoctrinating children, where are we going? Where is this society headed?
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His logic is complete and utter ********!
He may continue to seethe

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If they try anything, National Guard gonna go down there and make sure people get their licenses 
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Baby Boomers will soon populate this country and all this ancient beings with their barbaric bigoted ideas will be a history in the past... I sure hope I'm still alive during that time.
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I find it interesting how he keeps mentioning his involvement in the civil rights era but has no issue trying to deny equal treatment to another marginalized group.
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What kind of twisted civil rights movement fail.  Have fun siding with conservative Republicans who will then promptly turn on you once this is over. 
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Daddie 
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Originally posted by Euphoric
Baby Boomers will soon populate this country and all this ancient beings with their barbaric bigoted ideas will be a history in the past... I sure hope I'm still alive during that time.
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Wtf are you smoking Euphoric?
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How is he going to get arrested? By refusing to marry another man? Something no one will force him to do.
Or does this lost man think his ilk have a right to interrupt weddings or possibly hold foster children hostage so they're not adopted by a gay couple? You can't say you respect LGBT and then put conditions that would undermine their rights.
Get over yourself, what you call "children indoctrination" is really a message of hope. To let those poor kids who are bullied to death by people and children who attend your sermons know that there's nothing wrong with them, their sexuality is innate and doesn't take away their right to be as happy, secure, successful and beloved as anyone else. Also to hopefully have other people see reality and start treating LGBTs as humans and not as "other." It is working, people are starting to see the truth and that's why you are losing.
Where is the world headed? To a reality where LGBT people won't be killed, harassed, attacked and driven to suicide by people like you and worse than you. Where no one will be stopped to express themselves as truthfully as they wish, without hurting anybody.
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Originally posted by Eric.
How is he going to get arrested? By refusing to marry another man? Something no one will force him to do.
Or does this lost man think his ilk have a right to interrupt weddings or possibly hold foster children hostage so they're not adopted by a gay couple? You can't say you respect LGBT and then put conditions that would undermine their rights.
Get over yourself, what you call "children indoctrination" is really a message of hope. To let those poor kids who are bullied to death by people and children who attend your sermons know that there's nothing wrong with them, their sexuality is innate and doesn't take away their right to be as happy, secure, successful and beloved as anyone else. Also to hopefully have other people see reality and start treating LGBTs as humans and not as "other." It is working, people are starting to see the truth and that's why you are losing.
Where is the world headed? To a reality where LGBT people won't be killed, harassed, attacked and driven to suicide by people like you and worse than you. Where no one will be stopped to express themselves as truthfully as they wish, without hurting anybody.
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CLOCK ha!
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"We have nothing against homosexuals,"Owens added, "but when you start talking about marriage, and then indoctrinating children, where are we going? Where is this society headed?
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What a reverse warholian experience. Serve for the gods sista

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We have nothing against gays. We just don't want you guys to marry and want you to live in a dark room your whole life so nobody knows about you.
Except us. We always know.

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If they try anything, National Guard gonna go down there and make sure people get their licenses 
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That would be an intersectional nightmare for black gays. 
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Not a Pastor Association 
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