lol. then why do you hate women so much?
women care about representation in finance and business because they are being excluded from the higher paying jobs even though the have the same qualifications as men. the glass ceiling? obviously since the sewer industry is so low paying with terrible work conditions people in general are not going to scramble at the chance to be a sewer worker, not just women.

the fact that women make up half of the population yet nowhere near half in parliament should tell you enough about sexism in society. why should men who know nothing about the female experience be making legislation that impact women?

I don't though, I just look at things through a pragmatic lens. My favourite authors are women, my favourite musicians are women and my favourite people are women. Tops job in finance and business require heavy hours and real dedication, most women refuse because of their own inverted sexism or lack of ambition. And so what if the working conditions of the sewer industry is bad? A job is a job, like I said you can't just have select things in life, you have to take the good with the bad.

There are plenty of female MPs now, so take a seat.

I believe in freedom of speech, it's attitudes like yours that is going to one day turn our society into a state controlled nation ala the USSR. Toughen up your skin, get a sense of humor and stop trying to censor everything you and your PC brigade The sewer industry is vital in keeping a clean ecosystem as well, so I don't see how that's any less significant, if our sewers were dirty and polluted global warming would only increase and ultimately our planet would be destroyed. Why shouldn't women have a say in how we take care of our planet? And how is it less significant just because one involves mass media attention and the other doesn't? Both jobs are vital in different ways

I am well educated, I have an offer to study at Oxford uni and I worship feminist authors such as Angela Carter and contemporary feminists like Stella Creasy. I am well educated on feminism! Thanks for your concern though, it's sweet of you.

Ok boo hoo, cry me a river unless you can actually prove me wrong. I support women I just don't think the argument of feminism is the way forward.

But honey only cause something been there for centuries doesn't make it right or unable to change?
Voting rights, slavery, gay rights ring any bell? When we know better we can do better. Not questioning the status quo means stagnation.

Sayings like 'man up' aren't at all on the same spectrum as those examples you've given; they are basic human rights, there's no comparison sorry. I think as a society we just need to stop being so damn PC because that's gonna be the death of politics and freedom of expression.

Feminism is fine, but SJWs take it too far, like they do with everything.

Edit: I should clarify that SJWs are not the everyday activists; they are the ones that believe that society needs to have a 180 degree role reversal.

Open a damn book.
You know how many women in Asia get acid attacks because they are women?

SMH... delete this mess.

Do you know how many men died as a result of conscription? The white feather?

Why though? If ATRL closes this it's either because some angry feminists are throwing bile towards other members or ATRL has a sexist agenda and want to stick to PC conventions so they don't scare away potential customers

This is exactly how I feel

The problem with gay culture is that most of yall don't actually give a single **** about women or their struggles, as long as they're being "fierce" and catty and playing into the archetype we set up for them.


When women don't have to go on a date with a guy and not fear he's going to rape them, when women in the middle east can no longer be stoned for showing skin, when ****ing America starts paying women equally to men, then you can call BS on why feminism is still needed.

Until, sit your privileged little ass down and stop speaking on things you don't understand nor are you trying to, You're literally just talking to find a reason to stay in your ignorance, and it's pathetic. You opened this thread because you wanted people to cape for you and tell you your thoughts on what you believe feminism is are valid. You wanted to be assured that you're not wrong, but you are. Sorry sweetie. It is what it is. If you really cared about learning anything you would go to the good sis Google. Maybe if you actually had a conversation with a feminists or tried to understand why women feel how they do, you would understand the answer to your own question. But that's not what you want.

I swear to God, I will always be pro-choice just based on some of the dumbasses on this site.

Feminism, by definition, is the movement for equal treatment among the sexes, and that does go both ways. A feminist believes that a woman should get equal pay to a man, but a feminist also believes that, for example, a woman can pay for a meal; it doesn't have to be the man's job, or that if a woman hits a man, he can hit back.

If someone tries warping the definition of feminism to "Oh, I'm a lady; open the door for me, but also give me equal pay.", they're wrong.

And further more, what is with the obsession of eradicating political correctness? Is it really that hard to be a decent human being that you label anyone who does make an effort to be one "Too PC"?

People against PC are probably people who don't want to lose their society-given privileges.

Do you know what an analogy is?

Everyone should be a feminist.