Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

I'd say out of most of the major pop girls Selena Gomez probably has one of the worst breath support/projection techniques of them all. Sometimes you can barely hear her live, even with a mic in front of her mouth.

Originally posted by Tim£

She's actually got an amazing vocal teacher, he's also Jojo's and I aslo think he's actually been mentioned in the thread before(Not sure tho). I'm not quite sure why she's releasing muzik, if she gave a **** about it she'd try and improve but she really doesn't

Originally posted by Phoenixx

I can where you're coming from and I agree. There are people who just have a better voice and naturally start using it since they're toddlers. And then there are people who grow into their voices and become phenomenal but never reach that angelical, pristine state where your voice just sounds like a living melody unstead of a really well trained flute.

Avril Lavigne has a natural singing voice that is just like her normal speech voice but sung as opposed to the likes of let's say Ariana Grande or Jessie J who sound really really trained but lack harmony within their voices. It's like their doing homework with their voices, it's never natural. It's over the top and you CAN tell they have been severely trained and that's NOT a good thing. Good singing is supposed to sound EFFORTLESS. Once again, Avril Lavigne has been singing since she was 2 and her voice evolved naturally and she's not great sometimes technically but she has one of those voices that you only find 1 in a million. She's a natural and you can tell even when she came out at 17 and her live singing was ROUGH she had it in her. Now she's mastered it better and she sounds amazing. Anyways, hardwork actually pays off in the end and trained singers might sound better than her and more on pitch but the will NEVER touch the quality of her vocals. It's a subjective topic and this is how I see it and most importantly hear it. Christina Aguilera is a GREAT example of a natural singing ability. She is AWFUL sometimes with her technique but her singing when she nails it is just HEAVEN.

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

The worst thing about Christina's vocals is when people make comments about them.

"That HUGE voice from that small body."
"She sounds as SOULFUL as black singers."
"Her WHISTLE is amazing."
"She is a spinto soprano."
"The Voice of Our Generation."

One of the saddest things that happen in the world.

Originally posted by Tymps.

Is it bad to transpose songs for my own vocal range?

For instance, I want to cover Missing the War by Ben Folds Five, which is in E major, but it goes up to G#4 in the original key. So, I want to transpose it down a whole step to D major.

From the perspective of the voice as an instrument this is obviously a better choice for myself since I'd probably hurt myself trying to belt higher than I can. However, I keep reading things about how people feel different keys totally change the sound of songs, and how for example moving a song's key down a whole step changes the whole feeling of the song. I don't really notice, at all... would it be wiser just to choose a different song? Or is that an opinion on keys that isn't shared in pop music?

Originally posted by Tim£

There's this one girl in Kpop who legit sometimes just runs out of breathe and the projection just disappears, let me find the video

Originally posted by Ravindra

When I think of Christina's style of singing I hear a light lyric trying to be a dramatic by pushing her voice past its natural limits.. A true dramatic/spinto sized voice would bloom effortlessly the more the voice is pushed, it's the lyric voices that become distorted and artificial when attempting dramatic passages.

Lyric and dramatic voices both have their good and bad qualities.. lyrics possess more youthfulness, warmth and agility in their voices, dramatic sized voices are more mature and darker to their lyric counterparts and don't possess the warmth that lyrics have.. instead they're cold and abrasive, yet powerful but need more space to bloom or they tend to sound harsh and overbearing.. Honestly I'd love to be a spinto because they still retain that pleasant lyric quality but they can still push their voices to achieve dramatic-esque volume, the best of both worlds

Originally posted by HolierThanThou

Who are you talking about? Jung Ah?