Celeb News: Taylor explains Apple Music decision - Page 13

Caesar

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

U realize the whole shtick about being indie is that no major publication cares to listen to them right? U think John Basement Guitarist or Lady starlight will have the same media power of fighting injustice as Taylor Swift?

Do you think people are really gonna listen to Taylor outside of Swifties? People don't care if these artists are getting paid or not

KCLA

Who can blame her? That's why she is successful.

@michael

I'm rich but I want MOAR MONAY

Superpower

My respect for her just sky rocketed

TaylorFantasy

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Originally posted by Lovato

A drama queen, for sure.

dd sounds a bit bothered with her stance on streaming.

TikiMiss

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Originally posted by Caesar

Do you think people are really gonna listen to Taylor outside of Swifties? People don't care if these artists are getting paid or not

Her speaking up is still Infinitely more valuable than leaving it to indies tho lol. The thought that the girl who sold a million albums in one week should stay quiet so that the spotlight for the guy hawking cds from his car trunk could get bigger doesnt make any sense. And more people listen to Taylor than you think , from record companies to big media

Bey'Knight

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Originally posted by geddymonster

Here are my thoughts on this...

1) This was a very well-written letter and I agreed with many of her points.

2) What she has to realize is that Apple is asking for these three months for free with the intent of paying artists more afterwards. If I was asked to give up part of my revenue for three months (because, just like artists, I have various forms of revenue), with the promise that I would receive a RAISE after those three month and earn more money in the long-run, I would do it.

3) If she is going to make a statement, make a statement. Don't say that you are unhappy with the way Apple is handling things, yet still have 90% of your discography available on the service.

4) Why should Apple be the only one fronting the cost? Record labels are receiving just as much out of this free trial as Apple is, so maybe the record labels should give up their portion of the royalties for three months and Apple can only pay the portion that goes to artists, songwriters, producers, etc.

Taylor is making valid points, but she isn't 100% informed and she isn't trying to come up with solutions.

I disagree with you.

1. When u talk about various sources of revenue, you are only taking into account the artists and not other stakeholders like producers & writers whose bread & butter is basically songwriting. As an average commoner, i would not agree to go unpaid for 3 months. I have bills & rent to pay.

2. I suppose it does make her statement since half-assed & ingenuine if she still has her discography on the service

3. Apple shd be the one bearing the cost cus its their service. There are other streaming alternatives in the market and Im sure labeld would rather keep them to minimum rather than diluting the value of their IP any further. Besides the 3months free trial is Apple's call, it's not something labels insisted upon. Like others have said, apple is basically asking for free 3month promo.

Caesar

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

Her speaking up is still Infinitely more valuable than leaving it to indies tho lol. The thought that the girl who sold a million albums in one week should stay quiet so that the spotlight for the guy hawking cds from his car trunk could get bigger doesnt make any sense. And more people listen to Taylor than you think , from record companies to big media

The record companies & publishers are all in on this, big media will probably spread it around, but it won't really do anything.

h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

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Originally posted by Haus

What? That makes no sense. Apple doesn't ask anyone to pull out their iPhones in public. If they happen to be celebrities then that's their choice.

And also, a 3 month period isn't the same as giving someone something forever.

And lastly, phones are tangible objects that individually cost money to produce so Apple would be losing actual product. Audio files aren't tangible and can be reproduced so the labels aren't losing anything.

It's a stupid, nonsensical comparison.

Its the same basic principle. Mess @ labels not losing anything when aduio files are reproduced, what do you think pirating is?

And it's not really the artist's choice either to put their music on Apple. Taylor can control it because she's basically on an indie label but for everyone else, their label's parent company did the negotiations and they have to go along with whatever UMG, etc decides.

TikiMiss

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Originally posted by Caesar

The record companies & publishers are all in on this, big media will probably spread it around, but it won't really do anything.

So because the battle is supposedly lost means no one should speak up? Optimist eh

Caesar

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

So because the battle is supposedly lost means no one should speak up? Optimist eh

The people against this don't understand that the 3 months are needed, inorder to beat Spotify, so then they could make even more money than if there was no 3 month trial.

Doc

dd I kii at any of the artists who act like it's ALL about the "little people" like the producers and not at all about themselves,
but at the same time she told not a single lie so let me stand up for her.

Superpower

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Originally posted by Fearless

What's interesting to me is that a majority of artists don't seem to have a problem with the popular streaming services, and those that do(Taylor and the Tidal crew) happen to be millionaires.

Because they are the big ones who can speak up against the big bad corporations

rivers

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Originally posted by Dingdong123

I suppose it means that her pervious records are not in demand enough, so no compensation to the music makers is needed since basically very few will listen to those old records.

This isn't sticking up to the little artist though. I'm sure her old albums get as much streams as an indie artist. They don't make enough money in the first place. I'm not saying what apple is doing is good, I agree with her but it's a little transparent that she is only withdrawing 1989. She KNOWS this is good promo for the album. Kind of an evil genius marketing scheme.

Coklek92

Female Nelson Mandela of music industry i guess

Her Nobel Prize is upon us.

Superpower

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Originally posted by Caesar

The people against this don't understand that the 3 months are needed, inorder to beat Spotify, so then they could make even more money than if there was no 3 month trial.

If Apple wants to beat Spotify, then they should invest and pay the artists. Spotify pays the artists even during the free trials.
Apple just wants to cut corners

TaylorFantasy

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

Her speaking up is still Infinitely more valuable than leaving it to indies tho lol. The thought that the girl who sold a million albums in one week should stay quiet so that the spotlight for the guy hawking cds from his car trunk could get bigger doesnt make any sense. And more people listen to Taylor than you think , from record companies to big media

ddd right?

I mean I don't know her personally so I can't have a say on her real intention but people acting as if leaving the fight up to the indie artists will have any sort of impact. At least with her speaking up, there's a chance of things changing. I'm not trying to overstate her importance (any mainstream artists can do imo and she decided to be the one standing up so

selfless queen of pop

) but I don't think voices from indie artists can be easily heard by the commoners.

Phoenixx

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Originally posted by Caesar

Do you think people are really gonna listen to Taylor outside of Swifties? People don't care if these artists are getting paid or not

You're right. The only people that listen to her are Swifties, which comprises the whole world, if not the universe. I can perfectly see those aliens getting their life from 1989 from their spaceships. I would even go as far as to claim that the recent frequency in UFOs sightings comes from them wanting to take a peek at Taylor.

Caesar

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Originally posted by Superpower

If Apple wants to beat Spotify, then they should invest and pay the artists. Spotify pays the artists even during the free trials.
Apple just wants to cut corners

The ONLY reason Spotify pays artists during free trails & the free version of Spotify is because they use Ads inorder to pay. Apple Music doesn't have ads & I doubt they would use the profit from their other products inorder to pay Artists.

Paying the artists does nothing (Look at Tidal)

Mr.Link

You people acting like you don't illegally downloaded 80% of the music you owned before the streaming era. Like if you really want to listen to Taylor just buy her music or be cheap and illegally download it like you've always done.