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Discussion: Is killing in defense justified?
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kavish
No. I am against the taking of life. If someone is trying to kill me, I can defend without killing him. If I accidentally kill him, I'll kill myself as well because I wouldn't be able to live with that. I feel guilty for days if I kill an insect, now imagine the mental torture if I kill a person.
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Gworl, there's a huge difference between an insect and a psycho trying to murder you. Would you still feel guilty if that insect shot your mother?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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For example, I would have no problem with the SC shooter being brutally murdered in front of his weeping mother.
And dont' come @ me for saying that, the man tried to murder a five year old.
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by RihannaRTT
You're asking two very different things. Killing in self-defense, and killing for vengeance are not the same.
Killing in self-defense is justified imo, however it can depend on the circumstances (i.e. how much danger you actually are in)
Killing for vengeance is not, and the law agrees.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by RihannaRTT
You're asking two very different things. Killing in self-defense, and killing for vengeance are not the same.
Killing in self-defense is justified imo, however it can depend on the circumstances (i.e. how much danger you actually are in)
Killing for vengeance is not, and the law agrees.
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agree with this for the most part. but for example, if someone decided to kill that lunatic that shot 9 people in a church, it'd be justified. Some people just don't deserve to be alive.
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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Member Since: 11/30/2008
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
I often see people say stuff like "Oh, he was just as bad for killing the man who killed his child." or "You should never kill another human being under any circumstances." or something dumb like that, and I just don't get that mentality. 
IMO, if someone has proven that they have no regard for human life and are perfectly fine with murdering an innocent person, they have more than lost their rights to human life. If I see someone trying to kill, murder, or seriously harm a loved one of mine, you best believe I'm gonna kill them with my bare hands and not feel a single damn way about it.
What's your opinion, do you believe in "an eye for an eye" so to speak? |
i see your point but I think you need therapy ASAP
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
I often see people say stuff like "Oh, he was just as bad for killing the man who killed his child." or "You should never kill another human being under any circumstances." or something dumb like that, and I just don't get that mentality.
IMO, if someone has proven that they have no regard for human life and are perfectly fine with murdering an innocent person, they have more than lost their rights to human life. If I see someone trying to kill, murder, or seriously harm a loved one of mine, you best believe I'm gonna kill them with my bare hands and not feel a single damn way about it.
What's your opinion, do you believe in "an eye for an eye" so to speak? |
Are you talking about killing for defence or killing for revenge? You're using them interchangeably and they're very different concepts.
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Member Since: 5/19/2011
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I'd prefer to kill someone that's trying to kill me than being killed by an idiot. That's for sure.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by RihannaRTT
You're asking two very different things. Killing in self-defense, and killing for vengeance are not the same.
Killing in self-defense is justified imo, however it can depend on the circumstances (i.e. how much danger you actually are in)
Killing for vengeance is not, and the law agrees.
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Exactly. There is a huge difference between shooting someone who's about to shoot you and killing someone because they previously did something bad to you.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,128
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Are you talking about killing for defence or killing for revenge? You're using them interchangeably and they're very different concepts.
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Both honestly. I don't really see why getting vengeance is considered a bad thing. I've always kind of lived in the grey area, so I see why people would think my opinion on this is harsh, but if I could murder the person who killed/raped/etc me or someone I loved, and get away with it, I would have no second guesses.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
Both honestly. I don't really see why getting vengeance is considered a bad thing. I've always kind of lived in the grey area, so I see why people would think my opinion on this is harsh, but if I could murder the person who killed/raped/etc me or someone I loved, and get away with it, I would have no second guesses.
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I understand, if someone raped my sister for example I would have no second guesses as well...
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by RihannaRTT
You're asking two very different things. Killing in self-defense, and killing for vengeance are not the same.
Killing in self-defense is justified imo, however it can depend on the circumstances (i.e. how much danger you actually are in)
Killing for vengeance is not, and the law agrees.
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This. Revenge may be morally/personally justifiable, but it is not legal. Self defense, as in shooting a person who intends to physically harm you (or another human being in one's proximity) is fine and likely to not be punishable by law.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
Both honestly. I don't really see why getting vengeance is considered a bad thing. I've always kind of lived in the grey area, so I see why people would think my opinion on this is harsh, but if I could murder the person who killed/raped/etc me or someone I loved, and get away with it, I would have no second guesses.
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In part it may have to do with "intent". If you killed someone who is raping you/pointing a weapon at you (or strangling, beating the crap out of you, etc.) you're reacting to that moment in order to survive. To actively plan and pursue another person in order to "make them pay" for what they've done previously shows that you have criminal intent.
If everyone was allowed to take revenge upon those who have wronged them it would be chaotic, as people would try to justify killing other human beings by saying that the other individual had done them wrong in the past (even if it was a minor infraction that caused them no harm).
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