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Tournament: ATRL Big Brother 11 | A Twisted Tale | THE WINNER IS.......?
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
But you did forget to talk to us about what we were doing, and then forgot to vote the way we agreed upon. Multiple times.
And while I forgot to vote one time, I cooperated with the alliance the entire time, opposed to how you blatantly and flippantly voted in ways that could've hindered our performance in the end, but you still had the nerve to come for me after I FORGOT-- compared to you voting AGAINST us-- saying I might be allying with someone other than you.
Who are you to "judge character" after that?

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What are you talking about?
Round 2
Sam: tigerlily
XOXO: tigerlily
Jack: keshaspears [non-majority]
Sub: tigerlily
Guero: keshaspears [non-majority]
Save: tigerlily
Fierce: tigerlily
Round 3
Sam: Golden
XOXO: NO VOTE [non-majority]
Sub: Golden
Guero: Golden
Save: Golden
Fierce: Golden
Round 4
Sam: Bitchcraft & theus
Jack: Bitchcraft & theus
XOXO: Bitchcraft & theus
Sub: Bitchcraft & theus
Save: Bitchcraft & theus
Fierce: Bitchcraft & theus
Round 5
Sam: BeyRih
XOXO: BeyRih x2
Guero: BeyRih
Save: BeyRih
Round 6
Sam: Fierce, Super [non-majority]
XOXO: Golden, Super
Jack: Golden, Super
Sub: Golden, Super
Save: Golden, Super
Round 7
Sam: XOXO
Jack: XOXO
Sub: NO VOTE [non-majority]
Save: Guero (said he wanted to change his vote after you quit ?)
Fierce: XOXO
Round 8
Sam: Save & Fierce
Jack: Save & Fierce
Sub: Save & Fierce
Guero: Save & Fierce
Save: ??? [non-majority]
Fierce: ??? [non-majority]
Honestly, how on earth can you come at me for "blatantly and flippantly voted in ways that could've hindered our performance in the end" when I voted WITH the alliance in every single vote besides one half of a vote (I still voted for Super) because I was interested in getting Golden's jury vote. Bitch please.
What I did, one time, was no worse than yourself and Subomie not voting. Actually, it's better, because I actually followed through with the game, made a decision, and cast a vote in order to affect my game.
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Originally posted by Guero
Sam, would you say you were never put up for eviction (besides the first round) because you played a better social game than Subomie or because people saw Subomie as a threat more than yourself?
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Honestly, I would say it was a combination of both, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I had no intention of joining an alliance when I joined the game (this is how little I knew  ) and so my plan was to be the under-the-radar player quietly slaying that nobody really took notice of until they ended up in the finals. I found out, thankfully sooner rather than later, that this couldn't work. In a game of alliances, being the "under the radar" member made me an easy target for Bitchcraft to try to get evicted. So thankfully I was able to turn to our alliance and make it past the first vote with all of your help.
I made connections both within our alliance and outside of our alliance in hopes that if I ever were up for eviction again, I wouldn't be the biggest threat. Subomie and yourself were definitely seen as the biggest threats by the other alliance. But I don't necessarily think that makes Subomie's place in the finals more deserving, because he overcame the threat status. I was always a threat, I just did a better job of covering myself so that nobody really took me serious as one. And yet here I am.
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Originally posted by Subomie
Sam I think we can honestly say we destroyed their alliance, Kitt and dwuw quit and just sped up the process for us, but I don't think any twists could save them with 2 of them left. We took out their numbers week after week so I think we deserve credit for that. All of us. Our alliance played the better game.
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I agree that our alliance was the better one. We formed logical decisions and had a clear idea of who we wanted to evict and when from the beginning. It was a real team effort between me, you, Guero and Jack, and I feel that is why we made the final four, together.
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Originally posted by Cupid
I never chose the Duel players, all names were put in a randomizer and randomized 3 times until the players were chosen. I mean Sam was never chosen right?
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That is correct. I never had a chance to stop myself being switched or save one of my alliance members, yet I'm in the finals.
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Hmm... interesting words from both sides. This makes my decision even harder.
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I think it's very telling that a lot of the "negatives" for me, such as me voting against the alliance multiple times and being largely inactive, are just simply not true. As my post above demonstrates, I only voted against the alliance in 1/2 of a vote, which is less than anyone else in our alliance, so in actual fact, I have been the most loyal.
I've also been active whenever I can due to my horrid timezone, staying up all hours into the night just so I can be here when the action goes down, and writing up essays for why I should win on my lunch break at work. I'm also one of the Top 12 posters in this thread with over 200 posts, so to say that I've been largely inactive is just a fabrication of the truth, even with my difficulties accessing the thread during active times.
Meanwhile I've praised Sub for his game play and commended him on his strategic game, because he does deserve credit for that. But I do feel that I was stronger in challenges, made more of an effort to earn the trust of others outside of the alliance and thus not be seen as a huge target and adapt to the game and switch up my gameplay from passive nobody to head bitch when I needed to.
This really is a modern Cinderella story. All I need now is that cute little princess tiara.
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I think you did all those things good and you were a great player, but I wasn't gonna preface my post with that since it was about why I should win.
And I think I did do a lot of work with people outside our alliance too. The reason I felt so confident in being so vocal and making myself a threat was because I felt assured that I had enough allies in this game to keep me in. And clearly I did. I'm a very upfront and blunt person, but I'm not an idiot.
And I don't think you were more loyal than I was, you specifically voted against our plans in your own interest, good for you and all but not loyal. What I did was different, there was no plan for voting, it was two members of our group up and we just each had to go with what we thought. Me failing to vote in that case wasn't going against anyone.
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My reason for not voting for Golden was in order to secure a jury vote. I'd argue that your reason for not voting for either XOXO or Guero would have the same result (you not voting for XOXO while everyone else did would secure his jury vote etc.) Unfortunately neither Golden or XOXO were on the jury. But in that vote, I was voting to save Guero, who was part of my main final four plans, so I was defending my alliance. I didn't want to sit on the fence.
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I mean, even if I was being strategic (and I maintain it wasn't) I still feel that there is a difference between deliberately going against our plans as an alliance to bag a jury vote and bagging a jury vote in my case where there were no plans I was going against.
Personally it's not a big deal to me, loyalty is nice and all but you were playing to win. I did the same thing, but I don't think you should be claiming you were more loyal to our alliance because really it's not the case.
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That's fine. I can't speak for your game, but my "main alliance" was always me, you, Guero and Jack since about round three. Obviously you were equally committed to XOXO and Guero which is why you didn't vote. But it seemed like everyone else was on the same page and voted to keep Guero. If enough people chose not to go against our alliance, perhaps Guero would have been evicted after XOXO quit. But at least Jack and I, and I believe Fierce, helped keep him in too. I do think that voting to keep one alliance member in is better than just not voting at all, but that's only my opinion. Perhaps the jury will disagree.
And I do feel the need to defend my loyalty to the alliance when I was accused of voting against the majority multiple times when 6.5 out of 7 evictions had me voting with the majority of the alliance, which is definitely not what I call "disloyal".
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I believe I had ONE request at the beginning... And there still is only one:
Please refrain from mentioning my name, directing anything at me, or making any implications to me or my actions on the show.
Please, and thank you.

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who won?
will i have to give up my crown yet?
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You wouldn't have to witness your name being brought up if you just stayed out of the game you quit's thread tbh.
But voting you out was an instrumental part in my game so sorry, but I'm gonna talk about it when fighting for the title. It's a tournament, there shouldn't be any hard feelings. I voted for you in order to save Guero. That's the only way. Guero wasn't half as messy and always voted when he was supposed to, which was enough to earn my support.
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You wouldn't be hearing from me if you hadn't brought my name up at all in the beginning, because the points you made by bringing up my name were unnecessary. Just comply, please, and don't bother making a reply. No hard feelings.

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Quote:
Originally posted by jax.
who won?
will i have to give up my crown yet?
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It's Subomie vs. Me.
I'm assuming I have your blessing? 
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I do think that voting to keep one alliance member in is better than just not voting at all
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I agree with this statement but I had no way of knowing Robbie would quit so it really wasn't like that.
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Originally posted by Sam
I'm sign up #11 on Season 11 of Big Brother, I wonder if this means something?

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Don't forget this tea, y'all. #FulfilTheProphecy
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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I don't wanna say who's team im on
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This is a pearl vs Violet chachki situation
But Americas next drag superstar is subomie
#TeamSubomie
Sry
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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thnk u so much

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Quote:
Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
This is a pearl vs Violet chachki situation
But Americas next drag superstar is subomie
#TeamSubomie
Sry
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Ch
Sam is not Pearl.
Guero was Pearl. Sub is Violet.
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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then that means...

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