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News: Neo-Nazism spreading in Germany
Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by NE.
Shigo isn't racist, he's right. Germany has strong roots in Nazim until this day. Some of you need to wake up because all this "kumbaya" "racism is a thing of the past" media foolishness has got some you ****ed up. |
Except the media is always trying to convince us we live in a racist society. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
Neo Nazism is a consequence of bad neo-liberal economic policies being pushed on poor people. You see the rise of the far right in countries like the Baltics even though there is a very miniscule amount of immigrants there.
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So does that meant that these countries are identifying with Nazism from an economic/political standpoint rather than a racist one? Because if what you are saying is true, then it makes no sense that they would have racist feelings towards other races if there aren't that many immigrants there in the first place
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
true. nazism is illegal in germany whereas in america skinheads, neonazis and the kkk are free to operate and perpetuate their beliefs (sometimes in the police force).
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That's because America values freedom of speech.
Wasn't Prince Albrecht charged for giving an overzealous airport worker a Nazi salute? That is ridiculous. He got off but another guy was sentenced to 6 months in jail for giving a sarcastic Nazi salute. Someone else was thrown in jail for half a year because he trained his dog to raise its paw when you said "Heil Hitler". In America you won't be thrown in jail for such things so I'd rather have their laws thank you very much. 
Anyways...
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by gilded_butterfly
And just where do you think the ideas of Neo-Nazism come from? My point was that the White supremacy ideologies that Europeans came up decades ago still have an underlying effect on society today in the present and how other races/ethnicities are viewed around the world. However I do agree with you that Germany is much less ~problematic~ than most other European countries these days. There is no country on Earth that could ever compare to Russia which is the absolute worst when it comes to racism, homophobia, etc.
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This is what I think, he can't just single out Germany and let it sound like it is the worst, today.
Brought Germany the extreme (we won't forget the Duce) Nazis in the world? Yes and it will stay 'till the end of the world.
And so will Stalinism.
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Originally posted by rbautz
He sang it twice the second time with a choir.
For your second question, idiots are more commen as you think, are we a satisfied nation? probably not, we are working too much and live less, the Italians and French are much better in living,
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ok but what do immigrants have to do with that? it's like in Europe, there is a problem, whatever it is, and the right blames it on immigrants, they are like the scapegoat of everything when most of the times they do menial jobs that no one else wants to do... And I'm all against illegal immigrants but the legal ones need to be treated like citizens
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Member Since: 8/24/2011
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Originally posted by MaRy
yes it is, and repeated many times:
Germany, Germany above all things,
Above everything in the world
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This is disgusting!!!!! Ew
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
That's because America values freedom of speech.
Wasn't Prince Albrecht charged for giving an overzealous airport worker a Nazi salute? That is ridiculous. He got off but another guy was sentenced to 6 months in jail for giving a sarcastic Nazi salute. Someone else was thrown in jail for half a year because he trained his dog to raise its paw when you said "Heil Hitler". In America you won't be thrown in jail for such things so I'd rather have their laws thank you very much.
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Who the hell is Prince Albrecht?
If you are priveleged, you would prefer American law, if not well then.
They can wrote what they want, thanks to Schopenhauer, we know that there is no such thing as freedom.
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Originally posted by rbautz
Who the hell is Prince Albrecht?
If you are priveleged, you would prefer American law, if not well then.
They can wrote what they want, thanks to Schoppenhauer, we know that there is no such thing as freedom.
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Oop I mean Prince Ernst August.
Talking about "privilege" and Schoppenhauer  how is this relevant to my comment? It's a fact that Americans value individual freedoms, and Germany is more socialist and values a well-ordered society, often at the expense of individual freedom. I will take the former.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
Oop I mean Prince Ernst August.
Talking about "privilege" and Schoppenhauer how is this relevant to my comment? It's a fact that Americans value individual freedoms, and Germany is more socialist and values a well-ordered society, often at the expense of individual freedom. I will take the former. |
Freedom of speech - If I would meet you in the states and would threaten you verbally, what do you thing would happen?
I bet the punishment for that threat I would get from the law in the US wouldn't be much different from Europe.
We have as much freedom as in the US, the differences are much less as you think.
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Originally posted by rbautz
Freedom of speech - If I would meet you in the states and would threaten you verbally, what do you thing would happen?
I bet the punishment for that threat I would get from the law in the US wouldn't be much different from Europe.
We have as much freedom as in the US, the differences are much less as you think.
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Comparing threats? That's a false analogy. A Nazi salute is not threatening to harm someone. Especially when it's being used in a sardonic manner like in the cases I mentioned. So don't talk about these restrictions on freedom of expression like it's a good thing.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by rbautz
Freedom of speech - If I would meet you in the states and would threaten you verbally, what do you thing would happen?
I bet the punishment for that threat I would get from the law in the US wouldn't be much different from Europe.
We have as much freedom as in the US, the differences are much less as you think.
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Nothing would happen except you might get your ass kicked or you best be prepared to do some ass kicking.
You can threaten people verbally for the most part in the US and get away with it. A congressman was caught on tape in the capital building telling a reporter he would snap him in two, essentially kill him, if he asked him any more questions. Nothing happened. You publicly start talking about killing the POTUS you will have SS and FBI on you.
Our freedom of speech can be vile but I will take it when you look at the alternative.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
Comparing threats? That's a false analogy. A Nazi salute is not threatening to harm someone. Especially when it's being used in a sardonic manner like in the cases I mentioned. So don't talk about these restrictions on freedom of expression like it's a good thing.
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Goosey, a Nazi salute can bring up some emotional scars and that hurts some people. So in a way it does harm some people.
At the same time though I agree with you.
I think we should never forget our past but we still need to move past it. After 200 years go by is a Nazi salute still going to land someone in jail? 300 years? At what point do we let go? This is why I am so against talking freedoms away from people once you do it, it's so hard to reverse it.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Chucko
Nothing would happen except you might get your ass kicked or you best be prepared to do some ass kicking.
You can threaten people verbally for the most part in the US and get away with it. A congressman was caught on tape in the capital building telling a reporter he would snap him in two, essentially kill him, if he asked him any more questions. Nothing happened. You publicly start talking about killing the POTUS you will have SS and FBI on you.
Our freedom of speech can be vile but I will take it when you look at the alternative.
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Don't you just contradict yourself?
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Originally posted by Chucko
Goosey, a Nazi salute can bring up some emotional scars and that hurts some people. So in a way it does harm some people.
At the same time though I agree with you.
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That is irrelevant, if we restricted all free expression which could emotionally harm people there wouldn't be much free expression left. It's a whole different level than threatening to physically harm people, the two aren't comparable.
... it is precisely in the case of ideas found most offensive that these rights must be most vigorously defended ...
Anyways this is getting a biT off topic so I will leave it there.
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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Originally posted by Shigo
Its germany... why is anyone surprised? Thats how they are.
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wtf are you saying. Racism is more of a topic in the US than it is in Germany nowadays. Get educated, stupid ass
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Goodness, as a German whose family immigrated into this country after it had to leave a place where a brutal war was going on, I have rarely ever experienced any form xenophobia and nazism is way less present and tolerated in German society than in other European countries.
This country has a shallow past but the progress that has been made and the state of mind of this society is much further from nazism than other places.
In a country with over 80 million people we handle ourselves here way better than other countries with way less inhabitans.
My family since the 90's is to be found all around the world, from Sweden to Australia, from the United States to Italy and the ones that ended up in Germany have faced the least problems of not being "home" anymore, but rather found a place that gave them a second chance to start all over.
Mary, you are known for sensationalised and dumb threads, but your posts in here are a new low, even for you.
Posting stuff without knowledge to back it up and just reposting an article. It's disgusting.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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The ignorance and anti-German sentiment displayed by some of the people replying to this thread is truly appalling 
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Germany + eastern Europe are cesspools for neo nazis.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by rbautz
Don't you just contradict yourself?
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No there are limits to everything we are not a free nation. It's just an illusion. The balance is how much freedom are we willing to give up in name of 'xyz'. The larger the government gets the more they chip away at our freedoms though endless agencies of unelected officials. Just look at the power the FCC and EPA and IRS have they are not supposed to be political but they are.
There is no free nation on this planate.
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