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Discussion: Are you born gay?
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What I fail to understand is how can God make someone with disabilities and how can God make someone with a disease. But then he can't make someone gay? Like the logic is so stupid.
So can people be born gay? I'm leaning over to yes.
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I was born this way baby 
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It's a controversial topic. 
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I feel like you've made this thread 15 times already
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I suppose, although there are many factors that shape and influence the preferences of a human being.
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No, dummy. I was born naked. smh
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I don't think so but who knows. I think a kid who's brought up with no father figure listening to Britney 24/7 is more likely to be gay than a kid with male role models and plays sports etc 
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Comparing gay people to disabled and sick people is not cute.
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there's no such thing as "god" tho
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No, being an ATRL member turns you gay duh.
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Here's what I believe as a Christian. These are my personal views and I do not mean to offend anyone. I believe in the Bible, which makes clear on several occasions that homosexuality is a sin. But so are plenty of other things. The Bible also says that because of the fall (Adam and Eve in the garden), everyone is born with an innate desire to sin. Some people are predisposed towards lying. Some towards lust / adultery. Some towards homosexuality. Sin does not come from God, however.
So, to a degree, people are "born gay" because we are all born sinners, but it is not God's intention for humanity, and it is certainly not genetic.
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You're not born anything.
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Originally posted by Cherry
Here's what I believe as a Christian. These are my personal views and I do not mean to offend anyone. I believe in the Bible, which makes clear on several occasions that homosexuality is a sin. But so are plenty of other things. The Bible also says that because of the fall (Adam and Eve in the garden), everyone is born with an innate desire to sin. Some people are predisposed towards lying. Some towards lust / adultery. Some towards homosexuality. Sin does not come from God, however.
So, to a degree, people are "born gay" because we are all born sinners, but it is not God's intention for humanity, and it is certainly not genetic.
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According to the Bible, the following things are also sins:
1. Round haircuts.
2. Football.
3. Fortune Telling.
4. Tattoos.
5. Polyester, or any other fabric blends.
6. Letting people without testicles into church.
7. Wearing gold.
8. Eating shellfish.
Do you consider people who do those things sinners?
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Yes, you are what you are.
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Originally posted by Pop
According to the Bible, the following things are also sins:
1. Round haircuts.
2. Football.
3. Fortune Telling.
4. Tattoos.
5. Polyester, or any other fabric blends.
6. Letting people without testicles into church.
7. Wearing gold.
8. Eating shellfish.
Do you consider people who do those things sinners?
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Back to the "God hates shrimp" argument - is it valid? Yes and no. First, a Christian should never make an argument exclusively using the Old Testament Law. Jesus fulfilled the Law, ending its requirements (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). If you use the Old Testament Law as the sole argument for homosexuality being a sin, you should also declare that everything the Law outlaws to be sin: eating shrimp, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, sowing different types of seed into the same field, etc. No, Jesus fulfilled the Law. Christians are not bound by the Old Testament Law, but rather are to be subject to the Law of Christ (Matthew 22:37-39; Galatians 6:2).
So, if the Old Testament Law cannot exclusively be used to argue for homosexuality being sinful, why then do Christians believe homosexuality is sinful? The answer is that the New Testament also clearly and explicitly states that homosexuality is both immoral and unnatural (Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). The New Testament confirms the Old Testament command against homosexuality, explains why the command existed, and argues for why homosexuality should continue to be considered sinful. What then about shrimp? Does God still hate shrimp? No. Jesus Himself "declared all foods clean" (Mark 7:19). Jesus later confirmed this in a vision to Peter (Acts 10:15). While the New Testament confirms that homosexuality is sinful, it clearly indicates the food laws to be null and void. God never hated shrimp. Rather, God disallowed the consumption of shrimp to distinguish the Israelites' diet from that of the surrounding nations, and likely due to the fact that since they are bottom-feeders, shrimp are really not very healthy.
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http://www.gotquestions.org/God-hates-shrimp.html
And for the record, yes I do believe fortune telling to be a sin as a form of witchcraft.
And just so we're clear, I believe EVERYONE is a sinner.
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Originally posted by Cherry
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What about the others? Considering some of them are from the New Testament. 
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Originally posted by Pop
What about the others? Considering some of them are from the New Testament. |
Everything you named, aside from fortune telling, is either in the Old Testament only or isn't addressed.
Edit: As for gold jewelry, which is in the New Testament (my mistake):
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Paul did not forbid women from wearing jewelry, makeup, or braided hair—rather he tells women to not let their outward appearance become more important than their inner beauty.
Peter reminds us of this spiritual fact: “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight” (1 Peter 3:3-5).
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http://www.gotquestions.org/women-makeup.html
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