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Discussion: 'LGBT is sick with racism, get well soon.'
Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Doc
I don't know your race, but it's very interesting how White people dislike the idea of being lumped in a group or "community."
Point out one negative aspect of the White community and its "But we're not all like that! It's unfair! I'm not like that! I have minority friends! I hang with marginalized people!". But they have (and have had) no problem lumping together minorities with a whole host of negative stereotypes. The successes of any particular minority are attributed to that person and that person only, but the failures of a particular minority are reflected on the minority group in general. All it really confirms to me is that White privilege is real and strong.
21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
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This is 100% true. In fact when you watch the news you see this in action all the time. People who are not white are all the same, they act as if they are one group of people. However when we see a school shooter or the like they are always a unique individual who had "problems" and a host of other excuses. There's always a bias.
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Originally posted by Tropez
This is 100% true. In fact when you watch the news you see this in action all the time. People who are not white are all the same, they act as if they are one group of people. However when we see a school shooter or the like they are always a unique individual who had "problems" and a host of other excuses. There's always a bias.
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You DO realize that the news does not speak for every single white person on the planet, correct?
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by Tropez
This is 100% true. In fact when you watch the news you see this in action all the time. People who are not white are all the same, they act as if they are one group of people. However when we see a school shooter or the like they are always a unique individual who had "problems" and a host of other excuses. There's always a bias.
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by Repo
You DO realize that the news does not speak for every single white person on the planet, correct?
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Lord.
The fact that y'all get so offended by your community being called out instead of acknowledging it says the most.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Repo
You DO realize that the news does not speak for every single white person on the planet, correct?
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying how the media does follow what he says. And I do agree with it. People who are minorities don't have a face, while whites are seen as unique. If there's a terrorist attack, people are quick to say Muslims are bad. When a white serial killer kills a few people that guy is bad he may have had a mental issue.
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this is not even true. lol
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Originally posted by Sam
There's no "community", lbr. Nobody has each others back. Nobody works together. Heck, nobody even knows everyone's name. We're all a group of individuals. People need to stop blaming "a community" for the actions of some stupid prejudiced individuals.
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ive always thought so. there is no community in my experience.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Doc
I don't know your race, but it's very interesting how White people dislike the idea of being lumped in a group or "community."
Point out one negative aspect of the White community and its "But we're not all like that! It's unfair! I'm not like that! I have minority friends! I hang with marginalized people!". But they have (and have had) no problem lumping together minorities with a whole host of negative stereotypes. The successes of any particular minority are attributed to that person and that person only, but the failures of a particular minority are reflected on the minority group in general. All it really confirms to me is that White privilege is real and strong.
21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
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Sorry but this literally makes no sense. There is no "White community".  You're just making generalised claims about others making generalised claims so it's kinda just a vicious cycle, no?
Whereas, as an individual, I treat others as individuals. I don't condone stereotyping even though there is some truth in some stereotypes about some people. The difference is I never judge before knowing people and let them either live up to the stereotype or go against it. I don't assume something about someone until I know it... that would be pretty stupid.
Why can't a [white] person say that they don't believe in communities and that they believe in individuality without it being taken as "I believe all whites are different but all blacks are the same!" Because I certainly didn't say anything remotely like that in my initial post...
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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"There is no White community"
Do you just like... not believe in sociology, or..? It doesn't mean you all work together and kumbaya like it's the YMCA, but you don't live in a vacuum by yourself. #21 is so real, wow.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Yes the community is sick with racism and "transphobia." And we all partake in it in some form or another. Don't ya'll go acting so innocent now
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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I think it's important to note that racial tensions vary between countries. Each country has its own issues with racism. Our experiences are very different. Our histories are very different. How we need to tackle our country's issues surrounding racism is very different. And that's all over the world, whether it's America, Australia, France, Japan, etc. Each culture's relationship with race and racism is unique.
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Originally posted by Doc
"There is no White community"
Do you just like... not believe in sociology, or..? |
Just using a simple Google search, there's this community (which is the one I'm assuming you're referring to):
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a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
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This "same place" being the Earth and this "particular characteristic" being white skin. In my opinion (which obviously everyone has a right to disagree with) I don't consider this a strong enough connection to be considered a true community. This is such a superficial connection and I honesty don't feel any kind of connection with other white people just because they have white skin and live on Earth compared to people of other races. A white stranger is just as intriguing (or, more accurately, non-intriguing) to me as someone from any other race.
I don't consider some random white person on the other side of the world as someone who I'm in a community with.
The other definition:
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the condition of sharing or having certain attitudes and interests in common.
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I don't believe a particular race, or skin colour, can have a collective set of attitudes or interests in common. Each person is different and has things that they like and things that they don't like. Every person has different moods, different opinions and different outlooks. So therefore I also don't feel like I belong to any "white community" because there's no way of knowing that someone else has the same attitudes or interests as me just because of their skin colour.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Tropez
This is 100% true. In fact when you watch the news you see this in action all the time. People who are not white are all the same, they act as if they are one group of people. However when we see a school shooter or the like they are always a unique individual who had "problems" and a host of other excuses. There's always a bias.
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So now we've progressed to justifying the generalization of all white people because of how the media operates?
Also, you (and others) are complaining about minorities being generalized and discriminated against by whites, yet you turn right around and generalize all whites in the same exact way! Please tell me you are at least aware of the irony here... 
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Originally posted by Sam
Just using a simple Google search, there's this community (which is the one I'm assuming you're referring to):
This "same place" being the Earth and this "particular characteristic" being white skin. In my opinion (which obviously everyone has a right to disagree with) I don't consider this a strong enough connection to be considered a true community. This is such a superficial connection and I honesty don't feel any kind of connection with other white people just because they have white skin and live on Earth compared to people of other races. A white stranger is just as intriguing (or, more accurately, non-intriguing) to me as someone from any other race.
I don't consider some random white person on the other side of the world as someone who I'm in a community with.
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I don't believe a particular race, or skin colour, can have a collective set of attitudes or interests in common. Each person is different and has things that they like and things that they don't like. Every person has different moods, different opinions and different outlooks. So therefore I also don't feel like I belong to any "white community" because there's no way of knowing that someone else has the same attitudes or interests as me just because of their skin colour.
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Never heard of the suburbs or??  if you go to a diverse school whites stick together and blacks stick together and so do Asians. That's the way it has always been.
The point is, if there is a black community which I know you believe there is, there is most certainly a white community. But because of "21" yall are so entitled that you would never tolerate being lumped together in any regard, because you are all so special and unique from eachother...
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Originally posted by Sam
Just using a simple Google search, there's this community (which is the one I'm assuming you're referring to):
This "same place" being the Earth and this "particular characteristic" being white skin. In my opinion (which obviously everyone has a right to disagree with) I don't consider this a strong enough connection to be considered a true community. This is such a superficial connection and I honesty don't feel any kind of connection with other white people just because they have white skin and live on Earth compared to people of other races. A white stranger is just as intriguing (or, more accurately, non-intriguing) to me as someone from any other race.
I don't consider some random white person on the other side of the world as someone who I'm in a community with.
The other definition:
I don't believe a particular race, or skin colour, can have a collective set of attitudes or interests in common. Each person is different and has things that they like and things that they don't like. Every person has different moods, different opinions and different outlooks. So therefore I also don't feel like I belong to any "white community" because there's no way of knowing that someone else has the same attitudes or interests as me just because of their skin colour.
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But a white man wrote that Google definition, so it's irrelevant.
Try again, henny.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Eric.
I agree with you. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but I've only ever seen it talked about when it's about Grindr. Like, I've seen hundreds of profiles on Scruff and I have never read anything along the likes of "no asian, black, yellow, etc." Probably because Scruff is more mature but some people do have preferences about body types, habits and lifestyles.
It has to be a regional thing (specially in a country as territorial and multicultural as USA), because where I live, the only thing that is really prevalent within gay men is fem-shamming closet cases ("no femmes, very discrete and masculine"). Never read a profile here saying "no blacks, whites, asians," not even "no Haitians."
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Thank you!
And yes I have seen a ton of headless profiles proudly stating "NO FEMS" in all caps no less. It always makes me cringe, but at the same time it's nice that you can so easily know who to avoid.
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I think a lot of it all comes down to people vying to be the most oppressed. It's something sick about this current generation. People (minorities and white apologists) have truly convinced themselves that saying anything negative or demonizing about white people is somehow socially progressive and to be applauded.
But it's not. It only creates division and diminishes the awareness of true acts of racism and discrimination. SJW's don't even realize they're doing way more harm than they are good.
Calling all white gays racist and trying to prevent white people from rapping or opening Chinese restaurants by throwing out accussations of racism/appropriation only leads to a sentiment among the general population that is something like "well, everything is racists to them. don't pay it any attention". And it's that very sentiment that will see true acts of racism get brushed off casually, since you know, everything is racism these days.
Being chronically offended is not a cute hobby.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
Never heard of the suburbs or?? if you go to a diverse school whites stick together and blacks stick together and so do Asians. That's the way it has always been.
The point is, if there is a black community which I know you believe there is, there is most certainly a white community. But because of "21" yall are so entitled that you would never tolerate being lumped together in any regard, because you are all so special and unique from eachother... |
I'm not familiar with US culture, no. I need to keep reminding myself that my views on these matters are generally not the norm and although I think what I'm saying is fair (about everyone being individuals and everyone deserves the right to not be judged as another part of some general community) but that's not how the world really is in some places, I understand that. I don't want to cause any offence but just know that I do mean well when I say that I at least don't claim to be a part of a white community, whether or not you consider there to be one.
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The point is, if there is a black community which I know you believe there is
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I do not believe that there is a black community for the same reasons that I do not believe that there is a white community. But I am not denying that people are treated as if they are part of a community and generalised which is unfair.
Let I remind y'all that I am not from the US and I am not familiar with these "clique" associates in schools where people of same-race and background flock together. For me I've always just been exposed to people from multiple cultural backgrounds and whether I was friends with someone or wasn't friends with someone certainly didn't depend on their race or cultural background. But I can see that this isn't the same for you US folks.
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Originally posted by Sam
I'm not familiar with US culture, no. I need to keep reminding myself that my views on these matters are generally not the norm and although I think what I'm saying is fair (about everyone being individuals and everyone deserves the right to not be judged as another part of some general community) but that's not how the world really is in some places, I understand that. I don't want to cause any offence but just know that I do mean well when I say that I at least don't claim to be a part of a white community, whether or not you consider there to be one.
I do not believe that there is a black community for the same reasons that I do not believe that there is a white community. But I am not denying that people are treated as if they are part of a community and generalised which is unfair.
Let I remind y'all that I am not from the US and I am not familiar with these "clique" associates in schools where people of same-race and background flock together. For me I've always just been exposed to people from multiple cultural backgrounds and whether I was friends with someone or wasn't friends with someone certainly didn't depend on their race or cultural background. But I can see that this isn't the same for you
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You live in Australia which is far less ethnically diverse than the UK or the U.S.  you don't have to belive in the black community becuase you barely see black people 
And then we're just supposed to play pretend that most of you whites don't even have contact with not one aboriginal but nope there is no distinctive white community
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Member Since: 6/28/2009
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Generalizing people like this, saying things like "All white people are racist" or " All gays are racist", are no different than saying "All black people are uneducated rachet ghetto criminals". Racism is everywhere, every races, every sexuality has their fair share of racist assholes. It's funny how the victims of racism can be the quickest to generalize and stereotype other people.
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Wait, why are we talking about communities now? If we're using "community" in the sense of collective ideas and beliefs generally held across a large group of people, there is definitely a white community, black community, LGBT community, straight community, etc. It doesn't really have anything to do with the OP, though.
The point still remains that competing to see which community is more prejudiced as a whole serves no purpose.
And yes, the process of dealing with racism, homophobia and so on will vary by country since each nation has a different culture and history. On ATRL, though, social issues are usually discussed in context of the U.S.
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I am Caucasian and I have a preference for Black men. Thank you 
But honestly I find it a matter of taste .. You either would like to have sex with people from that race or not, because that skin color, kind of facial structure either appeals to you sexually or not.
I know I'd never do an Asian dude, but I still respect them and how harmless, well educated and smart they are. So I'mI'm def. not racist.
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