News: Police kill suicidal man

Tropez

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On May 11, Justin Way was drinking and threatening to hurt himself. His father, George Way, said his son was a recovering alcoholic and had been alcohol-free for five weeks.

“He just lost his job, and he had a setback,” he said.

Way’s live-in girlfriend, Kaitlyn Christine Lyons, said she’d caught Justin drinking a bottle of vodka, which she took away from him to pour out. She said he was drunk, lying in their bed with a large knife, saying he would hurt himself with it. She called a non-emergency number in an attempt to get her boyfriend to a local St. Augustine, Florida, hospital for help—and told them she did not feel threatened.

“My brother has been Baker Acted three times because he was threatening to hurt himself so I figured that would happen with Justin,” said Lyons. Florida’s Baker Act allows the involuntary institutionalization of an individual, and it can be initiated by law-enforcement officials.

“The only person Justin threatened was himself and I honestly don’t think he wanted to die.”

Minutes later, two St. Johns County Sheriff’s deputies, 26-year-old Jonas Carballosa and 32-year-old Kyle Braig, arrived at the home, armed with assault rifles, and told Kaitlyn to wait outside.

“I thought they were going into war,” she remembered thinking when she first saw the large guns. Within moments, Justin was shot dead

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In America even this can get you killed by the police.

MaRy

:daedbanana2:

The Unforgiving

LovingYourCareer

Fanik

what the ****? RIP

Moonchild

Rest in peace.

Phunk

Well they did what he wanted to do honestly. Kinda disgusting that they took it as a threat though.

Hopefully he's in a better place.

ItsJim

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?!?

Teen Idle

what the **** is wrong with america?

Icarus

What the ****??

Tropez

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Originally posted by MrMinum

Well they did what he wanted to do honestly. Kinda disgusting that they took it as a threat though.

Hopefully he's in a better place.

He was drunk. Since he was under the influence, you can't really say suicide is what he wanted.

Allie

He was drunk and yielding a butcher knife. We don't know what type of confrontation went on in that house.

JORDYZOLANSKI

Phunk

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Originally posted by Tropez

He was drunk. Since he was under the influence, you can't really say suicide is what he wanted.

We don't know if he had been suicidal before drinking though, that's the thing.

Ash12345

That's actually kind of tragic
He may have changed his mind last minute as well

RideOrDie

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Originally posted by Allie

He was drunk and yielding a butcher knife. We don't know what type of confrontation went on in that house.

Read the whole article. The poor guy was still in the bed, didn't try to attack anyone.

NX127

OMG so horrible

RIP

Phunk

Next they'll be pushing people off the bridges instead of saving them.

Alystar

They are assholes for killing him rather than trying to stop him, but he ran low on luck that day. Poor dude (RIP)

Repo

Stuff like this just pisses me off. It's pretty clearly a total abuse of power and a case of "Shoot first, save lives second." Probably because it's easier. The fact one of these officers was JUST in another almost identical scandal/conflict whatever is even more evidence that the issue is with the officers being sent out there (or police policy, but I really have a hard time buying that it's police policy to murder a suicidal guy who isn't threatening anyone? And no, saying "I don't want to drop the knife" while sitting on a bed making no attempts to harm another person is not a damn threat)

It's also ridiculous that they send heavily armed policemen, who WILL only make things worse (they can say only a handgun wouldn't make a difference, but they're wrong. A calm officer with just a handgun and not a bunch of equipment WILL provoke less stress which means the person WILL be more relaxed and LESS suicidal) and that they do NOT send a professional therapist with them. You know, someone who SPECIALIZES in treating situations like these and helping people struggling with suicide that probably could talk the potential victim down. Honestly, they probably don't because it's more expensive and it's easier to just claim self defense and murder the person (plus, psych specialists for talking people down from suicides tend to be very compassionate individuals that care about the well being of people, so they'd probably debunk all the bull**** the two on-location cops are spewing in the first place.

Also, if the blood is completely contained on the mattress and the bullet was in the mattress, I don't believe for a second that the suicidal man was actually attempting to attack/kill them. And I don't buy that one keeps getting attacked by suicidal men who never threatened anyone else at any point in the process.

Hope they lose their jobs and get thrown in jail for years. They deserve nothing less. So pissed off

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Originally posted by MrMinum

Next they'll be pushing people off the bridges instead of saving them.

They basically already are. I have no doubt we'll be seeing this soon enough