808's sucked though...... it was great production wise but a whole album of Kanye tryna sing is just awful and painful. So yes DEATH to autotune and Kanye going to extremes with it. Let T-Pain make his lil songs with it and let that be that. Lollipop sucks too along with Whatever You Like. Rappers just went overboard with it... use it on the hook but not on full songs. To me its a sellout ploy to get a hit.