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Discussion: Whitney, Janet, Mariah and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame
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I don't see why or how Mariah would make it in before Whitney. Even if she had more input in her music, it was never as acclaimed as Whitney's debut, and Whitney had way more impactful and influential moments than Mariah if we're comparing respective careers. Plus, Mariah is pretty much in a standstill with all of the horrible performances she has had in recent years.
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Also she outlasted both Whitney and Janet commercially.
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No she didn't. Janet's commercial success lasted 16 years(1986-2001), Mariah's lasted 10 years, (1990-1999, 2005,) and Whitney's lasted 13 (1985-1998).
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Janet really deserves it most out of the bunch. She has some amazing albums that really contributed to so many different genre's of music. Mariah and Whitney both should get it too though.
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Yeah but unlike Whitney,Mariah wrote and co-produced a lot of her music. Her vocal styling is overly cited and copied till this very day by MANY artist. Don't underestimate her influence .
Also she outlasted both Whitney and Janet commercially.
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It doesn't really matter because neither Whitney nor Mariah deserve to be inducted imo
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Originally posted by Teezy
A good majority of Mariah's music was dominated by MOR/AC pop fluff & her songwriting is mostly only appreciated by her fans. She's a pretty dull artist and I don't see her getting inducted soon.
Whitney was even worse. She didn't write or have a huge contribution in any of her work. She, much like Mariah, was just an amazing vocalist.
I'd support Janet getting in tho. She was creative and took real risks with her music that usually paid off. From Control to Rhythm Nation to janet. to The Velvet Rope, her discography has been dope.
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None of that is a requirement in the R&R Hall of Fame. And Whitney vocally arranged the majority of her songs.
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Yeah but unlike Whitney,Mariah wrote and co-produced a lot of her music. Her vocal styling is overly cited and copied till this very day by MANY artist. Don't underestimate her influence .
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Whitney's the most influential female vocalist of the past three decades.....
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Also she outlasted both Whitney and Janet commercially.
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No she did not.
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Mariah made rap featurings mainstream, wrote her own songs and has heavily influenced the vocal styles of many
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Originally posted by Aerosol
No she didn't. Janet's commercial success lasted 16 years(1986-2001), Mariah's lasted 10 years, (1990-1999, 2005,) and Whitney's lasted 13 (1985-1998).
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Mariah: 1990-1999, 2005-2009 = 15 years. And Mariah had more success in a shorter span
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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All three women have had more impact to music than 60% of the acts in the Hall anyways
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Member Since: 10/22/2010
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The HOF is too racist. They'll all get in there eventually though once these senile old men on the panel die off.
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Member Since: 10/22/2010
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Originally posted by Aerosol
No she didn't. Janet's commercial success lasted 16 years(1986-2001), Mariah's lasted 10 years, (1990-1999, 2005,) and Whitney's lasted 13 (1985-1998).
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let's NOT have you ever do the math for any major corporation. Let's simply not. 
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Member Since: 11/18/2011
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Beyoncé will be in BEFORE Mariah and Whitney. Bookmark me 
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Originally posted by Glamazon
Beyoncé will be in BEFORE Mariah and Whitney. Bookmark me |
Ehhh, I don't think Beyonce's going to have anymore of an easier time getting in than Mariah or Whitney. Also Beyonce has a long time before she's even eligible and many of the same people voting in the R&R Hall of Fame are the same people who did NOT give Beyonce AOTY.
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Mariah is just not worthy, she's not a legend imo
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What? How is Mariah not a legend? You guys seem to underrate certain pop/R&B acts as much as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame does. She is far more influential than more than half of the people that have already been inducted.
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Member Since: 2/24/2012
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Originally posted by V3$$3L.
EDIT: And racism. What ever will the old guard do before Eminem is inducted before Nas or Wallace?  |
STOP this stupidness.
Don't overuse the race card please.
6/10 of the first year's inductees are black.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I don't see why or how Mariah would make it in before Whitney. Even if she had more input in her music, it was never as acclaimed as Whitney's debut, and Whitney had way more impactful and influential moments than Mariah if we're comparing respective careers. Plus, Mariah is pretty much in a standstill with all of the horrible performances she has had in recent years.
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This 
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BTW, very interesting thread! I think the RnR HOF should have more recognition, it is clearly more credible than these basic awards shows nowadays, even though they've made some mistakes like not inducting Janet, Whitney and... Kate Bush!
But we can forgive them because they have some big legends in there... Woo 
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Originally posted by Aerosol
No she didn't. Janet's commercial success lasted 16 years(1986-2001), Mariah's lasted 10 years, (1990-1999, 2005,) and Whitney's lasted 13 (1985-1998).
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More like Mariah's lasted 17 years... 1990 through 2001 and again from 2005 through 2009  And Mariah is in a much better place than Janet and Whitney were during the first few years after their declines
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Out of the three, I think Janet has the best chance of being inducted. She's more acclaimed than the other two. I don't think Whitney and Mariah will ever be inducted.
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Originally posted by idkher
More like Mariah's lasted 17 years... 1990 through 2001 and again from 2005 through 2009 And Mariah is in a much better place than Janet and Whitney were during the first few years after their declines |
Ignoring the counting error, I'd be happy to compare Mimi's MIAMTEC receipts with Damita Jo, 20 Y.O. or Discipline.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by StonedSoulPicnic
Out of the three, I think Janet has the best chance of being inducted. She's more acclaimed than the other two. I don't think Whitney and Mariah will ever be inducted.
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sadly 
She's still a legend though 
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Ignoring the counting error, I'd be happy to compare Mimi's MIAMTEC receipts with Damita Jo, 20 Y.O. or Discipline.
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https://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_n2k0y3Ior31qbv182o1.mp3
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Ignoring the counting error, I'd be happy to compare Mimi's MIAMTEC receipts with Damita Jo, 20 Y.O. or Discipline.
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Where's the counting error. 1990-2001 is 12 years. 2005-2009 is 5 years. Is it really that hard to understand 
You're going to compare album sales from the early 2000s to 2014?  #Beautiful was a bigger hit than anything Janet released after 2001 and Mariah actually has some sort of public interest surrounding her
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