Avril Lavigne still has a single she recently released that didn't chart so drag I guess?

Basically this yet it will always be Hive and only Hive when these types of discussions come up with some sets. Typical.

Anyway, the Navy is gonna have to just deal with fan bases of her peers/competition using the opportunity to poke at them and get back at the more obnoxious members that troll other bases. It's just weird stan **** and pretty much all the fan bases do the same things, whatever.

When did I say it was the "official" title?

I never said we had an album physically. The era has an album and it includes the three singles released thus far.

It doesn't have to be. People were made aware of the song. But of course being performed after does help. The amount of time a song is exclusive means nothing. If people wanted it, they would buy it.

And no I don't. If I ever do it's obviously trolling. I'm usually completely unbiased and objective. I also knew about the success of Home. I was reading an article about the hits of the year so far. Awesome to see. More people of color will be represented in animated films.

Promo single?

It flopped .its funny how the navy is trying to make all these excuses when a few years back they were mocking songs that did better then this

And dead at promo single Not standing besides your faves music cause it flops

It's doing just terribly.

New Rihanna song generating 18K downloads first week? That's just a massive flopping. It's on Hot 100 only thanks to streaming.

You may be right and the somewhat truthful excuses the navy is saying about this era so far are the same ones other fanbases have used in the past that most of you - especially you - didn't see eye to eye with. The tables have tabled.

Good point. So the question could also be, why are people so forgiving of American Oxygen, but not other "flops"?

The other bases and media are waiting on the album to come out. before they go in.

Actually I remember you guys dragging Lady Gaga hard for ARTPOP (it was deserved as ARTPOP is pretty bad imo) buttttt yeah

EVERY artist that has an underperformance is treated the same way on here, especially one that isn't used to it.

was gaga not treated exactly the same way during the artpop era?

was britney not treated exactly the same way during the britney jean era?

how about jlo, shakira, ciara, avril, mariah, xtina, madonna, nicki, lana, etc. (even though some of these were expected which made the draggings even more petty)

Y'all with these excuses, but when other fanbases try it, it's "hahaha flop this, flop that".

Stop. The song is doing terrible. Most people don't care why, 'cause y'all couldn't be bothered to care when it was happening to other pop girls.

I've not even gotten around to listen to the full version but I liked the snippet when it leaked

Because she's been lazy this era.

Everybody expected her to hit back after such a big break with her best material, which instead has turned out to be pretty mediocre thus far.

The song is offensively lazy and awful

It's a terrible song. And, to make matters worse, it's coming from Rihanna.