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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
It doesn't matter if he doesn't have bigger numbers than other openly gay/bi male artists. The fact remains that he took most of the blunt for them so he deserves some credit.
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This was exactly my point. You all are here talking about how "young gays" don't even remember Adam Lambert. What makes you think they're gonna remember (and even moreso care) about Elton John, George Michael, Boy George or whatever other ancient generation artists you all are mentioning?
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Originally posted by Jay Fenty
He has played a big role, but Sam Smith has accomplished way more in a shorter amount of time. Frank Ocean has done nothing besides admit that he is bisexual, the last we heard of him is when he came out.
Im tired of people bringing up artists like Elton John etc in these type of arguments, those men came out later in their career, while artists like Adam and Sam have enjoyed mainstream success WHILE being openly gay.
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And to the ones claiming Adam has never seen mainstream success, you know good and well that's not true.
The simple fact that he was in the top 12 on AI gives him immediate mainstream exposure. It was one of the biggest shows on American television at the time, so let's not try it.
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
We also have to note that our generation at the time of Adam's debut didn't even have that many openly flamboyant artists the way older generations have people like Boy George, David Bowie, Prince, and Elton John.
I'm not equating Adam to having a similar impact as those artists I mentioned BUT he was pretty much the catalyst of the gay and flamboyant artists we have in our generation as well as the ones that are to come.
Not to mention Adam's incredible voice is iconic and respected in its own right as Queen asked him to tour with them.
Adam Lambert is very important and frankly more talented/entertaining than the likes of Sam Smith and Frank Ocean.
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Also very good points.
But I can't at some of you missing my sarcasm when referring to Frank's impact. Frank may not have had much impact on the gay community as a whole, but the fact is that he is still one of the very FEW openly gay, black, MALE artists. And he's one of the more popular ones. Whether you think Frank had any influence on the world as a whole is irrelevant when he has helped push the black community towards better acceptance of gay black men.
I think people sometimes forget that the black community is a completely different world when it comes to homosexuality and lgbt acceptance. Most young black kids aren't going to look up to someone like Adam Lambert or Sam Smith as their all-time gay role model, because they're life does not reflect the life of the average black person.
I don't stan for either Adam or Frank, but come on now, we really need to give credit where it's due.
Funny how the FORGOTTEN has been has a #1 album and a GLOBAL #1 HIT something Frank DAMN sure cqant and wont do. He also sells out ARENAS WORLDWIDE (Solo, not even taking in Queen). You Frank fans are just like Mika fans. Ill meet you in SYG 
