Let's talk about a song that Luke had a hand in writing that is actually incredible, Animal. Kesha's magnum opus. Literally my inspiration. I wish to write a song as good as THAT some day.
Aw, bless you're sweet little heart.
When I wrote that song, I wasn't expecting Kesha to take it, but she made it into a great song.
I wouldn't want to make a deluxe album either. I've grown used to deluxe editions being a thing, so I'll always discuss things like "meh, this should have been a deluxe track" about my faves, but if I was to release an album, I would do one version.
If you're a real artist and you have 15 songs you love, how can you possibly push 3 of them away to a version some people won't buy because it's more expensive and some retailers won't carry because they have a basic, limited selection?
I wouldn't want to make a deluxe album either. I've grown used to deluxe editions being a thing, so I'll always discuss things like "meh, this should have been a deluxe track" about my faves, but if I was to release an album, I would do one version.
If you're a real artist and you have 15 songs you love, how can you possibly push 3 of them away to a version some people won't buy because it's more expensive and some retailers won't carry because they have a basic, limited selection?
It's the same for me. From other artists I appreciate deluxe versions because more music is always nice (especially when there are hidden gems in the deluxe tracks like on Kesha's Warrior or Carly's Kiss), but I don't think I would want to put out multiple editions of a record, at least not right away. Teenage Dream is the perfect example of a 12 track album that really didn't need a deluxe edition or reissue to be perfect. Although I would replace Who Am I Living For? with Wide Awake, any day.
I think if I ever put out an album, it'd be something like:
Tracks 1-6, originals
Track 7, cover song (Animal by Kesha)
Tracks 8-13, originals
Track 14, acoustic version of lead single
Deluxe editions used to be a way to give fans more music I think, but these days it's definitely a marketing ploy and is all about trying to make the most amount of money. And it obviously works, otherwise they wouldn't do it. I know as a fan I always buy the deluxe editions of my faves albums because I want all of their songs.
It's the same for me. From other artists I appreciate deluxe versions because more music is always nice (especially when there are hidden gems in the deluxe tracks like on Kesha's Warrior or Carly's Kiss), but I don't think I would want to put out multiple editions of a record, at least not right away. Teenage Dream is the perfect example of a 12 track album that really didn't need a deluxe edition or reissue to be perfect. Although I would replace Who Am I Living For? with Wide Awake, any day.
I think if I ever put out an album, it'd be something like:
Tracks 1-6, originals
Track 7, cover song (Animal by Kesha)
Tracks 8-13, originals
Track 14, acoustic version of lead single
Deluxe editions used to be a way to give fans more music I think, but these days it's definitely a marketing ploy and is all about trying to make the most amount of money. And it obviously works, otherwise they wouldn't do it. I know as a fan I always buy the deluxe editions of my faves albums because I want all of their songs.
Exactly! I wouldn't mind if the artists used deluxe editions to give the fans 2-3 tracks that casual listeners wouldn't care about. Like, really personal ballads or something quirky and experimental that wouldn't resonate with non-fans maybe?
But in reality, deluxe editions are just messy cause they usually fall under one of the following categories
- The lazy deluxe : the label forces the artist to make a deluxe, as well as a Target version, a Best Buy version, an iTunes preorder version, a Japanese version, an Ohio grocery store version etc, but all the strong tracks have already been placed on the standard so the deluxe is full of rejects (examples : Lotus, Elusive Chanteuse, Big Fat Lie, The Golden Echo)
- The superior deluxe : when the label wants to play it safe and keep the standard GP friendly so the highlights of the album are pushed to the deluxe and the fans stay eternally pressed about how 99.9% of consumers and reviewers never got to hear the better tracks nor did those tracks ever get the chance to become standouts and singles (examples : Bionic, 4, Piece By Piece, Tough Love)
Deadline ends on Thursday morning, sign-ups close at the same time, the first eliminations (of people who didn't submit) are on Thursday night and then you start getting hints about the results.
Exactly! I wouldn't mind if the artists used deluxe editions to give the fans 2-3 tracks that casual listeners wouldn't care about. Like, really personal ballads or something quirky and experimental that wouldn't resonate with non-fans maybe?
But in reality, deluxe editions are just messy cause they usually fall under one of the following categories
- The lazy deluxe : the label forces the artist to make a deluxe, as well as a Target version, a Best Buy version, an iTunes preorder version, a Japanese version, an Ohio grocery store version etc, but all the strong tracks have already been placed on the standard so the deluxe is full of rejects (examples : Lotus, Elusive Chanteuse, Big Fat Lie, The Golden Echo)
- The superior deluxe : when the label wants to play it safe and keep the standard GP friendly so the highlights of the album are pushed to the deluxe and the fans stay eternally pressed about how 99.9% of consumers and reviewers never got to hear the better tracks nor did those tracks ever get the chance to become standouts and singles (examples : Bionic, 4, Piece By Piece, Tough Love)
YES to all of this.
Then you have Nicki Minaj who just says "**** it" to all general stereotypical standard/deluxe release patterns, puts 16-20 tracks on her standard edition albums and still releases deluxe tracks as singles (Super Bass, Girls Fall Like Dominos, Va Va Voom).
Kesha's magnum opus. Literally my inspiration. I wish to write a song as good as THAT some day.
. OMG. If Sam or TT could PM it back to me since I forgot to save it then I can PM it to you 