What are they saying you almost never post anything of substance?
Is it about gay marriage and not supporting something they have no control over?
Obama spoke out against gay marriage in 2008 too, but that was it. I WISH some of the GOP candidates would stop at that.
Cruz: Gay community waging Jihad
Carson and Huckabee are both announcing their candidacy in early May, from now until the day the Republicans pick a candidate there will sure be some characters.
Obama spoke out against gay marriage in 2008 too, but that was it. I WISH some of the GOP candidates would stop at that.
Cruz: Gay community waging Jihad
Carson and Huckabee are both announcing their candidacy in early May, from now until the day the Republicans pick a candidate there will sure be some characters.
Santorum (possible candidate): See above + denounced Lawrence v Texas, Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal
You are just cherry picking the obvious. Those guys won't make it but let's assume for a second Cruz did win and became POTUS he could really do nothing to stop gay marriage regardless if he supports it or not. It's in the states and the SC hands not his. Congress would have more of a say on it and I don't see a Republican congress passing any bills to stop it do you?
Here is another question. Do you really think if Hillary wins that you will ever hear anything significant from her again about gay marriage? I don't, she will just give it the same lip service Obama does, that is what they all do.
Either way one issue is not a reason to vote for or against someone when there are so many more issues out there to deal with. I know it might be important to a lot of people but it's a social issue that is happening on its own while we have a world on fire. I want to know what she plans to do about that.
You are just cherry picking the obvious. Those guys won't make it but let's assume for a second Cruz did win and became POTUS he could really do nothing to stop gay marriage regardless if he supports it or not. It's in the states and the SC hands not his. Congress would have more of a say on it and I don't see a Republican congress passing any bills to stop it do you?
Here is another question. Do you really think if Hillary wins that you will ever hear anything significant from her again about gay marriage? I don't, she will just give it the same lip service Obama does, that is what they all do.
Either way one issue is not a reason to vote for or against someone when there are so many more issues out there to deal with. I know it might be important to a lot of people but it's a social issue that is happening on its own while we have a world on fire. I want to know what she plans to do about that.
As I said if their statements STOPPED there [gay marriage] it wouldn't be as big a deal. They don't stop at marriage - they tear further into the gay community. It's a turn off for a lot of gay people which is what the comments I've been quoted on above are about.
As for myself: I have other reasons not to vote for them that aren't LGBT-related, while I do give them points on some things (sometimes I think California as blue as it is passes maybe too many laws), the Republicans vying for the job don't exactly go with the official Republican ideal of less government involvement sometimes. Bush is probably the closest judging from his interviews. I clash with most GOP ideals on amnesty, economics and several other things, and I actually hope someday a third party wins because even the one I tend to vote for is leaving me disenchanted.
Maybe I come across as a one-issue person because of the news posts I tend to put up, but I like to check out the whole picture, the same way I want the opposition to check it out as well and have something beyond a simple "you're wrong" "no you are" conversation. I like our discussions , in other places I would just be told "Shush liberal". If Hillary sucked at those ideals I listed before (I'm itching for live debates for that reason), I'd be wary of my vote to her, but for many it doesn't look that way. This is a minority-majority country - why scare away even one particular group be it gender, orientation or etc? If I were a GOP candidate, I'd choose to court the Youth (who tend to be socially conscious) vote over the hardline conservative one.
The ideal party for me would be something like those European Center Parties, I don't like that it's only one way or another most of the time. I wish some issues were studied more carefully or individually rather than just the typical YES/NO package from the top two parties here.
April 19 EDIT: This came out today @1:25, yes it's not a choice! That's how you do it
“I think it’s worth noting that Republicans seem to be talking only about me,” she told reporters after her first roundtable in New Hampshire, which took place at a family-owned wooden toy company in Keene. “I don’t know what they’d talk about if I weren’t in the race.”
Cruz claimed he has been pressing McCain directly for ages about a hearing on whether soldiers should be able to carry concealed guns on military bases. McCain denied it though:
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McCain said he'd "be glad" to talk about the issue and decide "if we need a hearing. But it came as a complete surprise to me that he had been pressing me."
Asked where it came from, McCain pondered the different methods of communication Cruz could have used to relay the message.
“Maybe it was through some medium that I’m not familiar with. Maybe bouncing it off the ozone layer for all I know. But there's a lot of holes in the ozone layer, so maybe it wasn’t the ozone layer,” McCain said.
“Maybe it was through hand telegraph? Maybe through sign language? I don’t know,” McCain continued.
McCain has shown he's no fan of Cruz in the past, calling him a "wacko bird" and "crazy."
Obama spoke out against gay marriage in 2008 too, but that was it. I WISH some of the GOP candidates would stop at that.
Cruz: Gay community waging Jihad
Carson and Huckabee are both announcing their candidacy in early May, from now until the day the Republicans pick a candidate there will sure be some characters.
Santorum (possible candidate): See above + denounced Lawrence v Texas, Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal
Lets be honest Obama has been the most gay friendly president to date. He even outted himself as a supporter of gay rights in 2012 election and gays have seem more advancements in their rights since Obama has been president than at any other time in US history. So if you want to bring up Obama's 2008 opinion you may want to be more accurate. Obama went as far as to refuse to even defend the Clinton era Defense of Marriage Act and he pushed for the Repeal of DADT.