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Discussion: Why did Applause stay in the top ten longer than 45S?
Member Since: 4/12/2008
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The amount of excuses in this thread are giving me life. 
Applause only had 2 TV performances in the US and they had less viewers than Rihanna's at the Grammys.
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Originally posted by Matangi
1. Applause was literally DESIGNED to be a radio hit  Listen to its generic, radio friendly production, the chorus etc etc. FFS is the complete opposite. How can you ask such a question when Applause is without any doubt one of Gagas most commercial sounding tracks (if not the most) while FFS is something Rihanna NEVER did before.
2. Gaga performed Applause on every event possible and even opened the VMA's with the song. Rihanna performed FFS ONCE.
3. FFS didn't even had a lyric video while Gaga made an event out of her lyric video
4. The "POP SUPERSTAR EMERGENY!!!!!" meltdown and early release
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Lyric videos? Katy's Birthday lyric video has over 80 million views and the song flopped, that has nothing to do.
How that pop emergency helped something? if anything it ruined the release because of the Katy Perry vs. Gaga thing. Besides, if it wasn't for that, the song and the video would've dropped the same day and the song would've peaked higher.
You are so dessperate.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by lonnie
After "album of the millennium" comments
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yes, this really was a genius marketing move to help sell and promote applause
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Lol applause is a better song IMHO but it's as generic as they come! How can monsters try and deny this when gaga herself said so! Weird lyrics have never stopped songs from appealing to the GP,see bad romance,tik tok,Macarena,who let the dogs out,just to name a few!
FFS is a folk acoustic song that us mostly arythmic. When all is said and done FFS will be remembered as Rih's risk and applause will not be remembered cuz its just number 5384729 generic dance music in gaga's catalogue!
It will also outsell applause in the end!
Monsters please let the light in and move on from all this bitterness. Yes the dragging and lashing y'all received was gloriously but it's in the past now,just like gaga's glory days!
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Originally posted by M A R C
Debuting the video and performing it on GMA then performing it on VMA which are both big platforms for promo.
The promo was bigger than FFS's.
FFS > Applause
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VMAs = 10M viewers
GMA = 3-4M viewers
GRAMMYs = 30M viewers
Hunty, it's simple math.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by bluth
i think your fellow navy explained it best
tweets are tweets, promo is promo. not my rules sorry!
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Then explain to me why most artist post about their new music on their twitter?
Just for fun or to PROMOTE?
There has to be a reason behind them posting it to their millions of followers.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by M A R C
Debuting the video and performing it on GMA then performing it on VMA which are both big platforms for promo.
The promo was bigger than FFS's. |
GMA audience + VMA audience < Grammy audience, but you do that math sis.
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remember when gaga got audience members in talk shows across america to applaud at regular intervals during the broadcast?
the promo was relentless!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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45s is definitely more generic than applause. Applause's production is a bunch of tacky warmed over 80s video game noises, and the lyrics are horrifically-delivered gibberish/gobbledeegook.
there's nothing non-generic about Rihanna singing about having a rough week at work, can't wait for the weekend, i gotta party now, blablabla, all over a tepid guitar strum. The song was obviously designed to be some sing-along campfire anthem, it's pretty contrived. I'm sure her writers thought every cubicle worker would be singing it in unison on wednesdays/thursdays/fridays
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by bluth
i think your fellow navy explained it best
tweets are tweets, promo is promo. not my rules sorry!
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So petty 
And no, they aren't the same AT ALL 
What Gaga did wasn't just exposure, it was a downright quid pro quo measure
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Originally posted by M A R C
Then explain to me why most artist post about their new music on their twitter?
Just for fun or to PROMOTE?
There has to be a reason behind them posting it to their millions of followers.
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As proved by a member earlier, Rihanna tweeted about the single just as much as Gaga did.
So how come that gives Applause an adventege that equals 1.2M copies?
This is getting beyond embarrassing
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The Monsters acting like that Kia commercial wasn't overplayed and viewed more than 30 million times. i see yall forgetting that.
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omg and that time interscope put applause up for sale on itunes. they just wouldn't stop shoving it down the gp's throat
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by bluth
yes, this really was a genius marketing move to help sell and promote applause
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Yeah I know right, the lead single from the "album of the millennium"
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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DEATH. Rihanna's highly anticipated return and her first single with critic darlings West and McCartney should have ensured a bigger hit then what we got. Promo isn't a definitive indication of why a song succeeds. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Either way, it's shocking that Applause was called a fly by night hit/flop, but 45Secs is a hit. Also one song is a lot better then the other, IMO.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by alfonso12
How that pop emergency helped something? if anything it ruined the release because of the Katy Perry vs. Gaga thing. Besides, if it wasn't for that, the song and the video would've dropped the same day and the song would've peaked higher.
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This is just an excuse. Just because it was put up against another more successful single, it really wouldn't have negatively affected Applause. If fans wanted to purchase it, they would have done, whether it was released to compete with the day after Katy's or not
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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the fact that the Navy can now be dragged by Monsters
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people liked Applause more  also the Kia commercial played a big part in its longevity
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
45s is definitely more generic than applause. Applause's production is a bunch of tacky warmed over 80s video game noises, and the lyrics are horrifically-delivered gibberish/gobbledeegook.
there's nothing non-generic about Rihanna singing about having a rough week at work, can't wait for the weekend, i gotta party now, blablabla, all over a tepid guitar strum. The song was obviously designed to be some sing-along campfire anthem, it's pretty contrived. I'm sure her writers thought every cubicle worker would be singing it in unison on wednesdays/thursdays/fridays |
Yep.
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Originally posted by lonnie
So petty
And no, they aren't the same AT ALL
What Gaga did wasn't just exposure, it was a downright quid pro quo measure |
Not you using some Latin in hope to make your posts more mature
Honey, please do this.
Ask yourself : What am I doing?
The answer is : I'm arguing with Monsters trying to prove Gaga's tweets are the reason why Applause did better than 45S.
Now, when you did that. How do you feel?
Ready to continue the discussion?
If the answer is yes.......
Sorry, hunty I ain't got time for this. It's just TOO MUCH
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When did the Stan world suddenly turn into a navy vs monster world?? I see you guys no longer mess with the Katy kats cuz they totaled destroyed you and your self estime during the great fall of gaga...so you turn to the navy cuz they are chill and forgiving!
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
DEATH. Rihanna's highly anticipated return and her first single with critic darlings West and McCartney should have ensured a bigger hit then what we got. Promo isn't a definitive indication of why a song succeeds. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Either way, it's shocking that Applause was called a fly by night hit/flop, but 45Secs is a hit. Also one song is a lot better then the other, IMO.
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Wow not Paul McCartney whose last top ten before FFS, almost 3 decades ago not helping FFS to be a bigger hit. Or better yet not when Paul and Kanye have three other different songs which put together still didn't outsell FFS still not being enough for FFS 
I mean they were the reason for the song's success anyway obviously 
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