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Discussion: Katy Perry sets new record
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Originally posted by ChandlerBing
Rihanna is an amazing catalog seller, she will get there in a couple of albums. For example, Gaga has Telephone and Born This Way that are close to 8m both but will never sell much more unless she smashes again, because her catalog sales are awful, basically non existent.
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Yeah she is a great catalogue seller a lot of her songs hang around in the top 600 since their release, especially with her lead singles, and I expect her to get another 10m seller from R8 so she will over take katy easy, as some of the stats in the OP seem to be false as well.
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Wow, Katy is really the new Queen Of Pop! She really eclipses her competition!
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Originally posted by Mariano
USA alone, you have no idea how right you are by saying this, cuz it literally kept selling only in the USA
what the hell The only 10M selling out of those is LTWYL and WFL is probably close
What's wrong with y'all, where are your receipts
Lady Gaga has the most 10M selling songs:
Just Dance
Poker Face
Bad Romance
Telephone
Born This Way
and I actually have receipts
Poker Face - 9.8M (in 2009 alone)
Just Dance - 7.7M (in 2009 alone, it sold around 2M WW in 2008 alone )
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2010.pdf page 10
Bad Romance - 9.7M (in 2010 alone, it sold nearly 2M WW in 2009 alone)
Telephone - 7.4M (in 2010 alone)
California Gurls sold less than both Telephone and Bad Romance - 6.7M
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2011.pdf page 13
Born This Way - 8.2M in 2011 alone
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2012.pdf page 7
That's it, when you have receipts, the world seems a better place
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DEAD if you think Gaga is selling another 2m copies of ANY of her singles after their/her peak WW
Rihanna is the only one close to 5 + songs selling 10m and that will still take her a couple of years even with songs that only need 400-500k copies to hit the 10m
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
And it sold over 2 million since then in the US alone
Katy wins
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I see all this talking yet no one's swerving me them receipts
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mariano
USA alone, you have no idea how right you are by saying this, cuz it literally kept selling only in the USA
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As of February 2009 it was at 479,455 in the UK
As of 2013 it was at 678,933
It sold way over 300k in the UK alone since then
it was also huge in France, Germany, Canada and Australia
lolol sorry!
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Originally posted by PhreshDiamond
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I have receipts and you have empty words and a bunch of emojis, I win.
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The pressed souls in here
Congrats Katy, hope she can get two more in KP4
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mariano
USA alone, you have no idea how right you are by saying this, cuz it literally kept selling only in the USA
what the hell The only 10M selling out of those is LTWYL and WFL is probably close
What's wrong with y'all, where are your receipts
Lady Gaga has the most 10M selling songs:
Just Dance
Poker Face
Bad Romance
Telephone
Born This Way
and I actually have receipts
Poker Face - 9.8M (in 2009 alone)
Just Dance - 7.7M (in 2009 alone, it sold around 2M WW in 2008 alone )
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2010.pdf page 10
Bad Romance - 9.7M (in 2010 alone, it sold nearly 2M WW in 2009 alone)
Telephone - 7.4M (in 2010 alone)
California Gurls sold less than both Telephone and Bad Romance - 6.7M
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2011.pdf page 13
Born This Way - 8.2M in 2011 alone
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2012.pdf page 7
That's it, when you have receipts, the world seems a better place
Don't spread lies, check out the sources above !
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DESTROY THEM WITH THE RECEIPTS
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Originally posted by PhreshDiamond
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Hunties chill, this isn't about Gaga/Rihanna. This is about katy passing the 10M mark with 6 of her singles*
*without receipts
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mariano
I have receipts and you have empty words, I win.
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Your receipts are YEARS old though and before her self destruction during the BTW and Artpop ers there is NO WAY ON VENUS, EARTH OR MARS that gaga is selling an extra 2-3m of each single YEARS after they dropped from the top 1000 of itunes WW
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So
IKAG sold 5M more after it peaked
Cali Gurls sold 4M more after it peaked
Hot N Cold sold 5.5M more after it peaked
Rihanna's songs that NEVER made IFPI (apart from Love the way you lie) sold 5M each WW after they peaked (cuz the number 10 song on IFPI are always aroud 5-6M sales)
BUT
Lady Gaga's singles couldn't sell 1M WW after they peaked ?
Yeah sure, y'all don't seem biased
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I thought Dark Horse was local though?
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Congrats Katy
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Quote:
Originally posted by PhreshDiamond
Queen of genric radio/general public friendly and intensely promoted bubble gum pop
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When will your fave with the exact same type of music though?
People on ATRL who think their faves are any less pop than Katy
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Was going to congratulate her but Mariano proved otherwise
Congrats for the almost record though Katy
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mariano
So
IKAG sold 5M more after it peaked
Cali Gurls sold 4M more after it peaked
Hot N Cold sold 5.5M more after it peaked
Rihanna's songs that NEVER made IFPI (apart from Love the way you lie) sold 5M each WW after they peaked (cuz the number 10 song on IFPI are always aroud 5-6M sales)
BUT
Lady Gaga's singles couldn't sell 1M WW after they peaked ?
Yeah sure, y'all don't seem biased
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The LIES tho
I don't think any of them even passed the 8/8.5M mark
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Wait, this aint official?
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChandlerBing
Rihanna is an amazing catalog seller, she will get there in a couple of albums. For example, Gaga has Telephone and Born This Way that are close to 8m both but will never sell much more unless she smashes again, because her catalog sales are awful, basically non existent.
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Gurl, you just talking out your ass at this point. BTW crossed 8 million before December 2011; this is known. If you disagree, take it up with IFPI.
Anyway, there aren't really legit receipts for several of the songs in the OP being at or near 10 million. Roar is for sure, Firework is for sure, but Cali Gurls is questionable, IKAG and HNC are unlikely, and Dark Horse is actually just a no.
I will state that the Kats aren't guilty of the only hyperinflation in this thread, though.
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Quote:
Originally posted by PhreshDiamond
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2-3M ? What are you talking about ?
Poker Face sold 9.8M in 2009 ALONE, it has probably sold 300k+ in 2008 alone - 10M
Just Dance sold 7.7M in 2009 alone, it was smashing WW since 2008 - 10M
Bad Romance sold 9.7M in 2010 alone, it sold 300k in its first week WORLDWIDE, in 2009
Born This Way sold 8.2M in 2011 alone, it needed to sell ONLY 1.8M WW in order to top 10M and since the end of 2011, Born This Way has sold 600k IN THE USA ALONE and 500k in JAPAN alone
Telephone sold 7.4M in 2010 alone and it was selling pretty well as an album track in 2009 and IT MAY be the only Gaga single NOT TO have topped 10M
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