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Celeb News: #TidalForAll
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Greed is bitching about not getting free music anymore. Do you think the artist who have complained about Spotify care about how it affects BB when they're not getting properly paid for it? Because T. Swift, Nicki, and others would rather receive and fair chunk of the money for their music vs. a position on BB.
Y'all keep screaming about greed while yelling "don't make us pay for music!" is ridiculous. And the people upset probably just illegally downloaded their music before Spotify appeared, so really. Greed vs stealing? What make any of you better?
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Who said anything about stealing though? I bought BEYONCE the day of release and proudly haven't watched it since. I buy music when I want to, otherwise I can just STREAM it like everyone else can on the internet.
What he is doing is making people have to PAY to stream music. What kind of logic?
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
I know that quality is not available as of yet. Thats why i also added the possibility of streaming in HD whilst in cinema. Basically any upgrade from Netflix's current provisions would make a rival streaming company viable.
But its not about outdoing Spotify's numbers. There's a reason 1st class suites fly less people compared to economy class. The price may be indeed exhorbitant even for exclusivity but that can always be revised.
There's more variety with music than shows than there is in movies & shows. Think of the amt of songs u can listen to within the duration of one tv show or feature lengh movie for that matter. U think cds are expensive but u dont mind paying nearly as much to sit thru one flick in the cinema and then purchase that same film on dvd when it's out lol
Oh and ppl r def displaying the entitlement syndrome. How many posters here have bragged about how free they get their music?
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No it won't. Because consumers don't even have the equipment to stream anything higher than 1080p. There's 2k and 4k, but they haven't even gone mainstream yet. However, its much more expensive to stream video at that quality. Its cheap to stream audio at loseless quality, and its at or below the bandwidth of full HD. So no, Tidal can stream it at a cheaper price.
Those people are likely to not buy Tidal. They are way more likely to purchase Blu-Ray audio, vinyl, higher resolution CDs than stream from tidal. These people are also not likely to be listening to the likes of Rihanna and the ilk. Clearly this is for the people who are foolish enough to buy beats headphones, people who are easily fooled into thinking they can tell a different with their apple headphones, etc. Its not some exclusive club, because that will hurt them in the end.
An album is more like a season on a tv show than one episode. I never said Cds were expensive, what I said what CDs in 2000 or even before were expensive. I don't buy DVDs, and when I'm at the movies its because a friend invited me, people usually go for the social aspect. Music is not as social as movies. A regardless I can watch it again on Netflix, with an unlimited supply of movies.
So? People want music to be entertained. And when you make that hard they'll pirate or find another way to get it. They are the consumer, and when you have artists on one platform, and artists on another people do have a right to be entitled because you are not making it easier for them. Who's the one paying these people to make music? The entitled ones. Music is a luxury, we can live without it.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Greed is bitching about not getting free music anymore. Do you think the artist who have complained about Spotify care about how it affects BB when they're not getting properly paid for it? Because T. Swift, Nicki, and others would rather receive and fair chunk of the money for their music vs. a position on BB.
Y'all keep screaming about greed while yelling "don't make us pay for music!" is ridiculous. And the people upset probably just illegally downloaded their music before Spotify appeared, so really. Greed vs stealing? What make any of you better?
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The irony in all of this is that all you defending this probably search Zippyshare on the daily for new music and always have YouTube opened watching music videos, etc WHICH IS LISTENING TO A SONG WITHOUT PAYING, if you want to get technical here. Don't play the radio either. That's free music that you didn't pay a dime for.
I want receipts that you all have paid for a subscription for this service and that you've paid for every bit of music you've ever listened to. Hopefully you didn't get the free trial either because technically that's listening to music without paying.
Get out with this hypocritical ******** and quit blindly defending people's stupid business decisions just because your fav wasted their money on it.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
Who said anything about stealing though? I bought BEYONCE the day of release and proudly haven't watched it since. I buy music when I want to, otherwise I can just STREAM it like everyone else can on the internet.
What he is doing is making people have to PAY to stream music. What kind of logic?
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Yeah, I buy a lot of music. I stream music when I'm interested in knowing the artist, or I want to listen to the album I already bought but don't feel like getting the cd or record. Having artists all over the place is a nuisance. Streaming is kinda like a supplement to physical media for many.
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Originally posted by Lose My Breath
FYI, Tidal is offering their service at $10 a month...
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I'm referring to the $20 service....
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Member Since: 10/14/2011
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Sorry but I'm sticking with downloads and Youtube.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
Who said anything about stealing though? I bought BEYONCE the day of release and proudly haven't watched it since. I buy music when I want to, otherwise I can just STREAM it like everyone else can on the internet.
What he is doing is making people have to PAY to stream music. What kind of logic?
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girl he's not making you or anyone do anything, if you don't want to subscribe stick to spotify or youtube
Apart from Taylor, (I believe) none of the artists on tidal have removed their catalogues, therefore the option for free streaming is still available
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
Who said anything about stealing though? I bought BEYONCE the day of release and proudly haven't watched it since. I buy music when I want to, otherwise I can just STREAM it like everyone else can on the internet.
What he is doing is making people have to PAY to stream music. What kind of logic?
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He is not making people do anything. You are NOT required to use the service, so again, the uproar over an OPTION, I do not get. Again, it is not greed on the part of the artists for wanting to get paid for their music. Assuming that it should be available for free is greed.
And to address a point you made in a previous post, it seems as if facts are nor prevalent in your discussion. Tidal costs the same as paid Spotify streaming. The only major difference is that there is no free streaming subscription option available for Tidal.
I actually pay for Spotify. So I'm not anti-Spotify. I just don't understand the need to see this fail when you're under no obligation to purchase the service in the first place.
Although I do think the cause of worry is what happens if it doesn't fail and all streaming services eventually become paid for services.
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All things aside, the response to the blue avatar/lay-out thing is kinda disappointing. Not many people are doing it.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by bey0nce
girl he's not making you or anyone do anything, if you don't want to subscribe stick to spotify or youtube
Apart from Taylor, (I believe) none of the artists on tidal have removed their catalogues, therefore the option for free streaming is still available
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The problem here is the ridiculous social media campaign. Trying to make it sound like they're saving lives or some ****. It's off putting and it's a bunch of millionaires wanting people to sign up for an overpriced music streaming service.
Then they're asking people to change their icons, etc. It's practically trying to shove it down people's throats. Not to mention, some artists probably will start taking their stuff down from other services and start giving exclusives to this service.
Quit being so blind to it.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Mike91
The irony in all of this is that all you defending this probably search Zippyshare on the daily for new music and always have YouTube opened watching music videos, etc WHICH IS LISTENING TO A SONG WITHOUT PAYING, if you want to get technical here. Don't play the radio either. That's free music that you didn't pay a dime for.
I want receipts that you all have paid for a subscription for this service and that you've paid for every bit of music you've ever listened to. Hopefully you didn't get the free trial either because technically that's listening to music without paying.
Get out with this hypocritical ******** and quit blindly defending people's stupid business decisions just because your fav wasted their money on it.
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Ch...bye. I'm not switching to Tidal until they give a good enough reason. I don't even know how much I pay for Spotify each month but at least I pay. And I pay because 1. no commercials and 2. I can listen offline without using my data.
I'm not caping for Tidal. I just don't understand why some of y'all are fuming over it's launch as if it's going to personally affect you. And given the tone of your post, you are quite mad over it.
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Member Since: 8/27/2012
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They want money? No, thank you. I bought my physical Riri albums but don't have all of them on my laptop. I listen on spotily for free. I'm not going to pay for it again. Tidal...what is this name.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I love Jay z and friends
But idc if Madonna, rih, bey, jay, Kanye and tay all release new albums today on tidal, I refuse to pay so much for a streaming service
#teamrnbxclusive
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
He is not making people do anything. You are NOT required to use the service, so again, the uproar over an OPTION, I do not get. Again, it is not greed on the part of the artists for wanting to get paid for their music. Assuming that it should be available for free is greed.
And to address a point you made in a previous post, it seems as if facts are nor prevalent in your discussion. Tidal costs the same as paid Spotify streaming. The only major difference is that there is no free streaming subscription option available for Tidal.
I actually pay for Spotify. So I'm not anti-Spotify. I just don't understand the need to see this fail when you're under no obligation to purchase the service in the first place.
Although I do think the cause of worry is what happens if it doesn't fail and all streaming services eventually become paid for services.
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It's not an uproar it's a discussion.. and you + others need to stop insinuating that members who like streaming music are greedy because you are living in the wrong age my friend. The digital era ain't for everyone I guess and I'm tired of talking in circles over this.
Jay-Z's business is so transparent while trying to be coy about what he's really after is disgusting, from a consumer's standpoint. What I don't like is other members in here calling people cheap or greedy because they don't want to pay $20/mo to stream some already rich musicians music who launched a campaign FOR ALL to prosper.
Just stop with the insults and we're good lol. Not everyone has $$ to spend like that and it's the truth. sry
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Ch...bye. I'm not switching to Tidal until they give a good enough reason. I don't even know how much I pay for Spotify each month but at least I pay. And I pay because 1. no commercials and 2. I can listen offline without using my data.
I'm not caping for Tidal. I just don't understand why some of y'all are fuming over it's launch as if it's going to personally affect you. And given the tone of your post, you are quite mad over it.
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I pay for my Spotify premium account too but I also understand that not everyone can afford it. Even if I didn't have it, then so what? I'll just go to youtube or the million other sites where music can be listened to. Music is meant to be heard by everyone. The idea that people can only listen to music if they pay for it is ridiculous.
And I'm not mad at all. Just tired of people blindly getting behind something just because their fav supports it.
The real problem in the music industry are the record labels. Those are the people who steal from artists the most. Streaming has caused no more harm to the industry than what was going to happen to it anyways, even before the idea of streaming came along. Maybe it sped the process up but at least more people have access to artist's music than ever before, which should be seen as a good thing.
You also know that the whole era of massive albums sales, etc really didn't come along until the MTV generation, right? Obviously it was never going to last and with the invention of the internet, it only further killed it.
People need to stop living in the past and thinking those inflated album sales are coming back. It was such a small time in history that it happened to begin with. Not to mention, people had no other choice but to buy the music. The only way you could listen to it was physically.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
The problem here is the ridiculous social media campaign. Trying to make it sound like they're saving lives or some ****. It's off putting and it's a bunch of millionaires wanting people to sign up for an overpriced music streaming service.
Then they're asking people to change their icons, etc. It's practically trying to shove it down people's throats. Not to mention, some artists probably will start taking their stuff down from other services and start giving exclusives to this service.
Quit being so blind to it.
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It's called marketing and again, they're asking people to change their icons etc. not forcing. You realise that these "millionaires" promoting this will help this service (hopefully) grow, which will in turn support the artists who aren't millionaires.
Should Jay-Z have just spent all that money on this and just released it without telling anyone? No promotional campaign? No social media presence which is so important in 2015? Ah, ok, got it!
And quit being condescending, about "quit being so blind" like you're so aware and in the know!1!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
It's not an uproar it's a discussion.. and you + others need to stop insinuating that members who like streaming music are greedy because you are living in the wrong age my friend. The digital era ain't for everyone I guess and I'm tired of talking in circles over this.
Jay-Z's business is so transparent while trying to be coy about what he's really after is disgusting, from a consumer's standpoint. What I don't like is other members in here calling people cheap or greedy because they don't want to pay $20/mo to stream some already rich musicians music who launched a campaign FOR ALL to prosper.
Just stop with the insults and we're good lol. Not everyone has $$ to spend like that and it's the truth. sry
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The majority of the talk has revolved around how Spotify is FREE and Tidal is $20. So, it would be safe to assume that the complaints revolve around those who wish to continue to get free music as opposed to paying for it. That is greed. Whether you fall in that category or not, don't know, don't care.
And you're saying what Jay is doing is greedy and you see through it, but I haven't seen a explanation into exactly what you think he is doing besides trying to get more money for his music and share the wealth with others, which is what most mainstream artists want from Spotify in the first place.
It's funny before Tidal was announced, ATRL was all "Spotify should pay them more money" and now "it's a great free service and these artist are greedy."
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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At the messy arguments against paying for music. At the outrage over a little marketing.
Woo Jesus.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by Retro
At the messy arguments against paying for music. At the outrage over a little marketing.
Woo Jesus.
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The girls who are insisting they are sticking with Spotify etc are the ones fuming the most
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
It's funny before Tidal was announced, ATRL was all "Spotify should pay them more money" and now "it's a great free service and these artist are greedy."
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TELL 'EM!
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
The irony in all of this is that all you defending this probably search Zippyshare on the daily for new music and always have YouTube opened watching music videos, etc WHICH IS LISTENING TO A SONG WITHOUT PAYING, if you want to get technical here. Don't play the radio either. That's free music that you didn't pay a dime for.
I want receipts that you all have paid for a subscription for this service and that you've paid for every bit of music you've ever listened to. Hopefully you didn't get the free trial either because technically that's listening to music without paying.
Get out with this hypocritical ******** and quit blindly defending people's stupid business decisions just because your fav wasted their money on it.
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So basically you just tried to throw him on a bus because he was completely telling the truth that expecting music free is greedy.
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