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Celeb News: Madonna: Black/Gay Rights Ahead Of Women's Rights
Member Since: 8/9/2012
Posts: 18,572
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Gays aren't **** shamed Legit TONS of people talk about the fact that they even have sex is disgusting, unnatrual, immoral regardless of how much or relationship status.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 3,420
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Originally posted by Rama
We are not oppresed just because our skin is white? Wow
Why even bring race? Let me guess, you're American.
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Yes. You are still white men and society favors you. You aren't being murdered by cops because of the color of your skin, or being shot because your music is too loud, or being harassed by men, or being told you deserved it for wearing a skirt.
You are white men and you are the epitome of privilege. Get. Over. It.
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Member Since: 4/30/2012
Posts: 16,573
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
I'm surprised at you stating all of this with so much conviction.
How would you even be able to deduct where homophobia stems from?
Something that's thousands of years old and even mentioned in the bible?
It is seen as an "unnatural, ungodly" act, regardless if the gays are fem or not.
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Okay but why do you think the men who wrote the Bible or whatever religious text deemed it as unnatural or ungodly? Because gay sex requires a man to take on the role of a woman, which is "bad" and defied the natural order as they understood it to be.
The oppression that gay men and women face is very different, but ultimately stems from the same place.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Really? Because in that case, surely history would have supported lesbianism? Women acting like men?
Homophobia does not stem from misogyny. That is BEYOND a reach.
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No. Lesbians are still women and still expected to fit inside a certain box. Defying their gender roles and rejecting men is a slap in the face to patriarchy.
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Member Since: 10/5/2011
Posts: 646
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She's always been a racist. No surprise here
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 17,938
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Originally posted by judaskills
Have you seen the gay community? Most are about as shallow as they come, so yes there are high beauty standards. And if you're having a lot of sex with the same sex, most closed minded people are definitely gonna shame you. Anyways, as I said, it does no good to try to say people are less/more oppressed than others when they are still a minority group.
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Welp, then these are not standarts, or at least not even close to what do women experience - I've read a lot about it so I know what I'm talking about. And close-minded people are gonna shame you for whatever reason, that's what they are. Don't want to argue with you, but yeah, there are million shades of oppression and intersectional thinking is what everyone should keep in mind. Being a gay man you will still have a male privilege and being a white woman you will still have a white person privelege. But it's not a completion, lgbt and women and PoC are fighting for one murual thing, honestly.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 2,840
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They're all bad issues, Madonna is exposed to gays and "blacks" every day, so she doesn't see them in the same light as she does say someone like Malala whom was shot for being a girl and attending school.
Y'all need to calm yo asses down, you know THE ULTIMATE QUEEN is always here for blacks, gays AND women.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 3,420
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Yeah, those are ********. Everyone gets teased/bullied.
I'll care when (white) women are victims of hate crimes.
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Lol. And what do you think rape is if not a hate crime?
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Member Since: 2/28/2012
Posts: 19,176
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Originally posted by blaggot
if I didn't think she was senile before, I sure as hell do now
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good for you i guess
ofc she's right.
everything she does and say is ALWAYS on point
QUEEN of exposing the ugly truth.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 17,938
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Yeah, those are ********. Everyone gets teased/bullied.
I'll care when (white) women are victims of hate crimes.
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Seems like you didn't even read what I've written but that's ok I suppose?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 25,504
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I see what point she is trying to reach, but she is wrong. You simply CAN'T compare The LGBT issues, the Race issues and the Gender inequality issues, they are all bad and you can't say black people are having it better than gay people, or females are having it worse etc. Those are 3 different issues related to discrimination, but yeah, quite different. . .
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 3,142
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Originally posted by konaa
Yes. You are still white men and society favors you. You aren't being murdered by cops because of the color of your skin, or being shot because your music is too loud, or being harassed by men, or being told you deserved it for wearing a skirt.
You are white men and you are the epitome of privilege. Get. Over. It.
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Now i agree with some of this but white gays are killed for being gay but white men are more privileged and if u can hide it well youre good.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by konaa
Yes. You are still white men and society favors you. You aren't being murdered by cops because of the color of your skin, or being shot because your music is too loud, or being harassed by men, or being told you deserved it for wearing a skirt.
You are white men and you are the epitome of privilege. Get. Over. It.
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You aren't being murdered by cops because of the color of your skin
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Neither are (white) women. Black gay men are.
Not sexually harassed, by we do get beaten to death by men
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being told you deserved it for wearing a skirt
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We don't wear skirts, but there are people who still consider homosexuality a crime/disease and use that to justify crimes against gays
Maybe in Europe/North America gays are kind of privileged, but there's a world outside where it's not like that. Sorry.
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Member Since: 3/3/2012
Posts: 13,073
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Really? Because in that case, surely history would have supported lesbianism? Women acting like men?
Homophobia does not stem from misogyny. That is BEYOND a reach.
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But it does, lmao.
Where does it stem from then, genius?
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
Posts: 6,765
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Would you mind taking a SEAT? This comment is disgusting.
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I didn't mean it like that
I meant people try to justify hating gay people through religion, not that I think it's justified, but that people use an excuse because religious text say it's a sin.
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Originally posted by LetsParty
Women are free to live in saudi arabia. Gays are KILLED. Don't you dare compare the two, not today
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You can hide the fact that you're gay, can't really hide being a woman. As someone said being gay doesn't erase male privilege.. Men are preferred over women in almost any society. White women are preferred over black people. So there's a blurry line and you can't really say who's treated worse
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Now this is slowly turning into "No, I'm more discriminated" "No, that's me!"
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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The world is being taken over by SJWs. HELP.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 17,938
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Originally posted by MotherSuperior
The world is being taken over by SJWs. HELP.
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And that's a bad thing because.....?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 7,726
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Originally posted by Rihhyonce
Okay but why do you think the men who wrote the Bible or whatever religious text deemed it as unnatural or ungodly? Because gay sex requires a man to take on the role of a woman, which is "bad" and defied the natural order as they understood it to be.
The oppression that gay men and women face is very different, but ultimately stems from the same place.
No. Lesbians are still women and still expected to fit inside a certain box. Defying their gender roles and rejecting men is a slap in the face to patriarchy.
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You're very bold to try to say what the people who wrote the bible actually felt/thought or not. If it's about gay sex being bad because the man takes the role of a woman, why wasn't hetero sex with an actual women considered JUST as "unnatural, gross and ungodly"? In most old cultures hetero sex was celebrated: in Egyptian culture, in ancient Rome etc.
You can't even say that the oppression of women has even been CONSTANT over historical times and/or in all ancient cultures (during the middle ages for examples, women were extremely educated and well regarded). Even Homosexuality had its periods where it was celebrated and practiced openly in Europe. Since there is no constant pattern, then, in my opinion, you can't say where exactly it stems from.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Homogenic
And that's a bad thing because.....?
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Because SJWs are garbage.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 3,142
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Originally posted by Homogenic
Now this is slowly turning into "No, I'm more discriminated" "No, that's me!"
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But you have to acknowledge the fact that some groups are opressed but some groups are even more opressed.
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