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Discussion: Define these terms:
Member Since: 4/28/2012
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ATRL seems to have a wide variety of opinions as to what certain words that are constantly thrown around mean. I'm curious to hear from each individual what they consider certain terms to mean.
Define and/or give 1 or more examples of:
Artists
Legend[ary]:
Icon[ic]:
Songs
Hit:
Moderate hit:
Underperformance:
Flop:
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
Posts: 55,134
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We Found Love was a hit
DWUW was a moderate hit
California King Bed was an underperformance
GUY was a flop
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 30,196
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Artists
Legend[ary]: someone who has made a huge impact in their field and will long be remembered for their talent. (ie. Beyoncé)
Icon[ic]: someone who has made a cultural impact and constantly makes headlines. (ie. Lindsay Lohan, Kim Kardashian)
Songs
Hit: a song that has done well on multiple formats - good sales and airplay
Moderate hit: a song that has done well on multiple formats, but still failed to chart in the top 30
Underperformance: a song that had all the elements of being a success, but didn't catch on
Flop: a song that got no attention and failed to make any sort of impact
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Member Since: 9/15/2012
Posts: 22,487
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GUY was a hit
California King Bed was a moderate hit
DWUW was an underperformance
We Found Love was a flop
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,010
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Artists
Legendary: Someone who has achieved the ultimate level a musician can be. They, aside from being popular, are extremely revered by other musician because of their talent.
Icon: Someone who will be still remembered into the future because the person represents something. Like Britney with teen pop.
Songs
Hit: Top 10+
Moderate hit: Top 30+
Underperformance: In Hot 100
Flop: Not in Hot 100
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
Posts: 21,227
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Artists
Legend[ary]: Michael Jackson
Icon[ic]: Beyonce
Songs
Hit: Before He Cheats
Moderate hit: Do What U Want
Underperformance: G.U.Y
Flop: Songs that don't make the Hot 100.
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Member Since: 1/16/2011
Posts: 24,638
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Legend: everyone knows who you are no matter which generation they are from (e.g. Marilyn Monroe, Madonna, MJ, Britney)
Icon: someone that is currently relevant/recognizable but may not be as well-known by all age groups (e.g. Bey, Rih, Katy)
Hit: Roar
Moderate hit: Waking Up In Vegas
Underperformance: Unconditionally
Flop: G.U.Y.
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tymps.
GUY was a hit
California King Bed was a moderate hit
DWUW was an underperformance
We Found Love was a flop
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 894
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Artists
Legend[ary]: Artist/Song known by all generations and all kind of people. Getting almost only critical acclaim and are respected (MJ, Beatles, Elvis)
Icon[ic]: A thing which is automatically tied to some Artist/Song and is often referenced in media or anywhere (and people get the 'joke'). Meat dress=Lady Gaga, Spiky Bra=Madonna, Single Ladies dance..
Songs
Hit: Song with big sales, radio, streaming, high Hot100 peak, has impact, you hear it everywhere.. (Blurred Lines)
Moderate hit: Song that has good sales/radio/streaming but doesnt make it to the top and has not that much of impact, dies out quickly..(Lips Are Movin)
Underperformance: When song peaks lower as people expect, but it's not that terrible. (Applause)
Flop: Underperformance x 10 (GUY)
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Timber
Artists
Legendary: Someone who has achieved the ultimate level a musician can be. They, aside from being popular, are extremely revered by other musician because of their talent.
Icon: Someone who will be still remembered into the future because the person represents something. Like Britney with teen pop.
Songs
Hit: Top 10+
Moderate hit: Top 30+
Underperformance: In Hot 100
Flop: Not in Hot 100
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Member Since: 4/12/2008
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Artists
Legend[ary]: Someone that will never be forgotten, like Michael Jackson or Madonna.
Icon[ic]: An icon is an artist that will be remembered, but not as much as a legend. Same of an iconic performance / look / etc. ATRL needs to learn than good =/= iconic.
Songs
Hit: Songs like We found love, Bad romance, Roar
Moderate hit: A song that did well but won't be remembered in 10 years, like Applause, Wide awake, Rude boy.
Underperformance: A song that didn't flop but didn't do as well as expected, like Marry the night, Unconditionally, California king bed.
Flop:A fail like G.U.Y, Perfume, Pretty hurts
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Hit: Party in the U.S.A., We Can't Stop, Wrecking Ball, The Climb
Moderate hit: See You Again, 7 Things, Can't Be Tamed
Underperformance: Hoedown Throwdown, When I Look At You, Adore You
Flop: Who Owns My Heart, Fly On the Wall, Start All Over
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by blackraven
Artists
Legend[ary]: Artist/Song known by all generations and all kind of people. Getting almost only critical acclaim and are respected (MJ, Beatles, Elvis)
Icon[ic]: A thing which is automatically tied to some Artist/Song and is often referenced in media or anywhere (and people get the 'joke'). Meat dress=Lady Gaga, Spiky Bra=Madonna, Single Ladies dance..
Songs
Hit: Song with big sales, radio, streaming, high Hot100 peak, has impact, you hear it everywhere.. (Blurred Lines)
Moderate hit: Song that has good sales/radio/streaming but doesnt make it to the top and has not that much of impact, dies out quickly..(Lips Are Movin)
Underperformance: When song peaks lower as people expect, but it's not that terrible. (Applause)
Flop: Underperformance x 10 (GUY)
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Your definitions are on point! I definitely think Applause was bigger than LAM, though.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Artists
Legend[ary]: An act that's so unique, original or outstanding, that it will never be forgotten. The Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Queen, Madonna, Beyoncé
Icon[ic]: It's memorable but not necessarily unique. There can be hundreds of icons but only a few legends. Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera
Songs
Hit: Top 10
Moderate hit: Top 40
Underperformance: Top 100
Flop: didn't chart
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 5,639
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Artists
Legend[ary]: Someone who is universally known by all demographics and has made an impact on pop culture. They will be remembered strongly.
Icon[ic]: Somebody who is well known currently but may not have a large impact in the grand scheme of things. They will be remembered but not for as long as a legend
Songs
Hit: Top 10
Moderate hit: Top 30
Underperformance: Top 50
Flop: Anything beyond Top 80
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