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Discussion: The most manufactured pop star
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Originally posted by Trent W
Swissman she is manufactured, all popstars are, you just think that because some other acts have a better singing voice the can skip the manufactured label when in reality they are as manufactured as Britney.
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Yes I know all popstars are manufactured. I think the thread title, "most manufactured" suggests that there is a long list, but we're looking for the one who fits that best.
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I seriously cant name more manufactured artist than Knowles and The fact this thread turned into a Knowles discussion proves my point.
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Britney, Beyonce and Katy Perry. Fact.
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Originally posted by Eternium
@PULSE: How do you have this much time to spam yet no time to reply to my post. You said Britney was manufactured for stating she was a virgin. So I posted Beyonce singing "Yes," a song she "wrote" and "produced" about remaining a virgin. Does your concession mean that you agree Beyonce is manufactured? Or is it just coincidence that she followed in Britney's footsteps almost half a decade later?
You do know Bey's songwriting scandals started mainly with Survivor, right?
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Beyonce has control over her career. Britney does not. That's a fact.
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All the popstars from the bubble gum era were manufactured pop stars. Britney Spears, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, N*SYNC etc.
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Originally posted by Eternium
@PULSE: How do you have this much time to spam yet no time to reply to my post. You said Britney was manufactured for stating she was a virgin. So I posted Beyonce singing "Yes," a song she "wrote" and "produced" about remaining a virgin. Does your concession mean that you agree Beyonce is manufactured? Or is it just coincidence that she followed in Britney's footsteps almost half a decade later?
You do know Bey's songwriting scandals started mainly with Survivor, right?
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Yes isn't necessarily about remaining a virgin though, it's broadly about not wanting to take a relationship too fast. And in that case even if it was about virginity, Beyoncé is not saying "I AM A VIRGIN UNTIL MARRIAGE" she is, as usual, being the voice of modern women, giving them something they need/want to hear.
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Britney, and anybody who says the opposite is purely delusional..
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Knowles, Britney and Katy are All manufactured Except Brit and Katy are not even tryna pretend they are not while Knowles is trying her best to fool us into thinking Shes more than them, which is not true. They are not so different Except Knowles has slightly better singing abilities.
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Knowles, Britney and Katy are All manufactured Except Brit and Katy are not even tryna pretend they are not while Knowles is trying her best to fool us into thinking Shes more than them, which is not true. They are not so different Except Knowles has slightly better singing abilities.
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This is true.
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
I seriously cant name more manufactured artist than Knowles and The fact this thread turned into a Knowles discussion proves my point.
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Please state your definition of manufactured and explain why Beyoncé is manufactured in your eyes. I'd love to know.
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Wait. Why are we saying female pop stars when it is obviously boy bands. I can't with this site sometimes.
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Also, Ariana Grande. Just look at her album credits. Republic really took the reigns for My Everything.
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Originally posted by Golden
Please state your definition of manufactured and explain why Beyoncé is manufactured in your eyes. I'd love to know.
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Shes a product who needs countless writers and producers on her albums, many PR specialists and more. Shes not authentic.
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Knowles, Britney and Katy are All manufactured Except Brit and Katy are not even tryna pretend they are not while Knowles is trying her best to fool us into thinking Shes more than them, which is not true. They are not so different Except Knowles has slightly better singing abilities.
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Beyoncé's not doing any of that. She's recognizing and being grateful for the talent she's got. 99% of people, including Katy and Britney, can wholeheartedly agree that Beyoncé's a better overall performer than them. She's not trying her best to FOOL them into thinking she's better than they are, because it is a fact. Beyoncé is a better performer than Katy & Britney. Katy and Britney are great popstars and they've achieved massive amounts of success, so I don't really know what you're trying to get at.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Also, Ariana Grande. Just look at her album credits. Republic really took the reigns for My Everything.
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Ariana has writing credits on 6 songs for ME + shes the one whos been choosing the singkes for this era. She's not manufactured.
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Originally posted by swissman
Yes I know all popstars are manufactured. I think the thread title, "most manufactured" suggests that there is a long list, but we're looking for the one who fits that best.
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In the past maybe, but Beyoncé has passed her this decade in that term. Have you seen the PR machine that Beyoncé is? All that praise she got from the media all the sudden? She was always talented in my eyes, but no one cared much last decade as much as you want to pretend they did.
Beyoncé has become more of a celebrity than a musician this decade in the eyes of the public.
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Originally posted by karron0624
Wait. Why are we saying female pop stars when it is obviously boy bands. I can't with this site sometimes.
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I mentioned 1D. Also, 5SoS. Also, Kesha's original image was really manufactured in my opinion.
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Shes a product who needs countless writers and producers on her albums, many PR specialists and more. Shes not authentic.
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This is true perhaps, but I think the difference is that if you have an incredible talent, how you're packaged and all that is just frill. It's just extra compliments to your talents that help you get to the top spot. Take for example Judy Garland. Her name was changed. She was given diets to look slimmer, she had image enhancements, she never wrote a song, she never produced her music. The MGM team did all they could to make her a star: the right movies, co-stars, directors, etc. And it worked. But she had a talent and so she doesn't seem inauthentic.
Beyoncé, like most popstars, has hair and makeup, writers, producers, PR, etc. But how is she inauthentic as a popstar? How does that make her more inauthentic than anyone else? Is that not her amazing voice on the track? Is that not her sweating and tearing up the stage? She has this flawless image in part by her PR but also because she very rarely isn't flawless as far as her career goes.
It seems a lot of people want Beyoncé to be a product so it makes them feel better, but Beyoncé has been heavily involved in her career since day one.
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Originally posted by Trent W
Beyoncé has the same input than Britney in her music, they just perform what's written for them. There's nothing wrong with that. Only when stans use it to bluff.
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Not when it was literally confirmed Britney didn't even record some of the songs on BJ and had a voice-a-like do it for her
Writing and producing aside, the bare minimum of going into the studio and recording wasn't even done in Britney's case
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Originally posted by Golden
Beyoncé's not doing any of that. She's recognizing and being grateful for the talent she's got. 99% of people, including Katy and Britney, can wholeheartedly agree that Beyoncé's a better overall performer than them. She's not trying her best to FOOL them into thinking she's better than they are, because it is a fact. Beyoncé is a better performer than Katy & Britney. Katy and Britney are great popstars and they've achieved massive amounts of success, so I don't really know what you're trying to get at.
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Being a good performer is Just a small part of one's whole artistry. Knowles rarely writes her own music. Her albums are more like factories hiring 70-100 writers, producers and other credited people. She does not write, She does not play any instruments, she rarely says something from her heart, Shes a product being ordered to look nice, dance and sing something that was written for her.
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