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Discussion: The most manufactured pop star
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Originally posted by swissman
Why are we forgetting Lady Gaga here?
In her case though, this is absolutely NO SHADE at all as she's said time and time again about how she became the artist she is alongside Lady Starlight.
Her whole schtick seemed to be to embody the idea of a pop artist to a tee. Intense, crazy, nonsensical costumes, repetitive, silly lyrics, slick production, posey dance moves.
She's the definition of a manufactured popstar, but in the best possible way. She came out and was like, "You want a popstar? I'll GIVE you a popstar." It was brilliant. but it was not organic (even if she says that how she dresses is a part of her now).
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I agree Lady Gaga is one of the most manufactured tbh.
She was a massive product of the industry when she came out. And thing got out of control when they gave her power.
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Originally posted by Lethal
Lmao you can't even name a single artist who's claimed she steals her credits. Just stop.
We don't care if you like Beyonce, it doesn't excuse you from being clocked for saying dumb crap.
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You care since you are PERCHED on Britney threads everytime. I KNOW you secretly BOP to Femme Fatale and Britney Jean so drop this "I HATE BRITNEY" act.
Britney Spears is the Princess of Pop for a reason! She is POP CULTURE. She one of the BIGGEST pop stars that has ever LIVED and she will CONTINUE to get hits and make people like YOU salty.
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Originally posted by Trent W
I agree Lady Gaga is one of the most manufactured tbh.
She was a massive product of the industry when she came out. And thing got out of control when they gave her power.
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I think she always had the power though. That's how she got where she was. She wasn't a label's dream she was her own.
Things only got out of control because she started to break from the idea of a popstar, whereas someone like Katy is still going very strong because she's held onto it.
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
Who's the blueprint then Josephine Baker?
Janet and Madonna are probably the first two who really sculpted the image of the sexualized modern female popstar.
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Brigitte Bardot and Jane Birkin, especially, did "Je T'aime...Moi Non Plus" which was a huge uproar over a decade before Madonna even debuted 
You're also leaving out names like Cher, Grace Jones, Debbie Harry, etc. who are also very late to mainstream music but still did the sexual acts before Madonna and Janet Jackson. Heck, Marilyn Monroe with Happy Birthday, Mr. President and Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend (which inspired Material Girl's video) did it first, too, and she wasn't even close to being the first.
If we're going to negate Britney's impact because someone did the sexual shtick before her, then we can also negate Madonna's and Janet Jackson's since many women did the sexual shtick before them, too.
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Britney has no input. She doesn't even have control over her finances in her 30s.
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Britney. She said it herself she never gets her way 
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Originally posted by Lucas32
Britney Spears
Boybands
Justin Bieber
Lady Gaga(it's very different with her though because ,in a way ,she manufactures herself if that makes sense)
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Gaga ? No it doesn't make sense.
She released ARTPOP against the will of her manager and when he decided not to support this project she fired him  Troy could've helped Gaga become bigger than Madge...
Another thing is that Troy and others have always been telling Gaga to dress pretty and she did exactly the opposite ...
She released Born This Way at her peak which btw was as big as Britney's and she was so powerful as a Business woman, an artist etc. that she got the approval of Interscope, Troy etc. when they clearly saw that Born This Way is a huge departure from TF/TFM ...
Gaga is probably the least manufactured artist out of the bigger ones....
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Originally posted by Lethal
Britney has 0 input. If you can't see that, then dear lord you're beyond my help. You can literally count the number of songs Britney has written on one hand.
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But she wrote them thoooo........... 
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Originally posted by Lethal
It is and always has been Britney Spears imo.
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Britney and its sad to see 
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Beyoncé, Ariana Grande, Sam Smith and Katy Perry.
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Originally posted by hardbrit
You care since you are PERCHED on Britney threads everytime. I KNOW you secretly BOP to Femme Fatale and Britney Jean so drop this "I HATE BRITNEY" act.
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I actually don't hate Britney, but I do hate her fanbase with a passion.
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Originally posted by hardbrit
Britney Spears is the Princess of Pop for a reason! She is POP CULTURE. She one of the BIGGEST pop stars that has ever LIVED and she will CONTINUE to get hits and make people like YOU salty.
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lol
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Originally posted by swissman
I think she always had the power though. That's how she got where she was. She wasn't a label's dream she was her own.
Things only got out of control because she started to break from the idea of a popstar, whereas someone like Katy is still going very strong because she's held onto it.
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Hmm well in the beginning she came out like a moderate version of what we've seen in a few years, so I think that at least she was stopped when she wanted to do too much, which ironically was the perfect point for her. I think she gained more control in BTW and ARTPOP which was her demise. I hope she comes back in her moderate version.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Also I don't think Taylor is manufactured. She's EXTREMELY calculated and I have a hard time believing all the things she does for her fans are 100% genuine but I think she's in control of her career.
Manufactured to me means cookie-cutter, no artistic control, etc.
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Britney nowadays
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Originally posted by swissman
Why are we forgetting Lady Gaga here?
In her case though, this is absolutely NO SHADE at all as she's said time and time again about how she became the artist she is alongside Lady Starlight.
Her whole schtick seemed to be to embody the idea of a pop artist to a tee. Intense, crazy, nonsensical costumes, repetitive, silly lyrics, slick production, posey dance moves.
She's the definition of a manufactured popstar, but in the best possible way. She came out and was like, "You want a popstar? I'll GIVE you a popstar." It was brilliant. but it was not organic (even if she says that how she dresses is a part of her now).
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Because she dropped her image in her second era, imo. Her first era was so clever and a great play on pop culture allusions but she didn't maintain that falsified image very well. In 2011 she basically abandoned her spot as top dog to put her neck out for a cause she believes in by abandoning her perfect image.
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Originally posted by Cheers
Britney. She said it herself she never gets her way |
Britney always gets her way. She meant in personal matters. 
and i cant believe people with rihanna beyonce katy perry etc avi's are saying Britney 
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It's Beyonce obviously she was first made by her father and then he handed her to Jay Z who's in charge of her life and career !!! poor girl #freebeyonce 
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Also, if a popstar (which essentially is a singer) cannot actually sing live, then how are they not manufactured? If they have no essential abilities as a singer, then they are just being marketed right, given the right writers and producers, are dressed a certain way, etc. You're not an artist you're an image.
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Originally posted by swissman
Also, if a popstar (which essentially is a singer) cannot actually sing live, then how are they not manufactured? If they have no essential abilities as a singer, then they are just being marketed right, given the right writers and producers, are dressed a certain way, etc. You're not an artist you're an image.
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Exactly. The likes of Beyoncé, Sam Smith, Adele, Ariana Grande are all fantastic singers so they cannot really be deemed manufactured in any way possible.
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