They used to be an excellent band until they really went off the deep end with A Crow Left of the Murder. It's a shame 'cause I consider Morning View and Make Yourself among my favorite albums of all time. After that, they just tried way too hard to be abstract.
I love those two albums, and S.C.I.E.N.C.E. They're still a lot better than most bands on the radio. Especially the ones crossing over to pop (Saving Abel.)
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